This saw has been rode hard and put away wet. Rough usage from probably a logger or tree service. What you see is what you get. Needs plastic, air filter, handle bar welded, rope for the starter, the rear handle has breakage but is still usable. Surprisingly the piston looks good. It does have the full wrap handle and big dawgs. You wanted a cheap 461 well here it is but you will need to put in some love! As is for $400.