Murphy's Law?

[slowp]

A gypo logger came in yesterday. He wants to start logging on his unit. It is a pretty high elevation area and usually has about 8 feet of snow on it. We're having the El Nino winter here. He said there's maybe a foot and a half.

So, what do you want to bet that as soon as he gets the OK to start up--there's some blessings to be gotten from other folks, we'll get a big dump of snow. I haven't even looked at my snowshoes this winter.

 

[hanniedog]

Yep mother nature can have a very biting sense of humor. So lace up those snow shoes and find the extra over coat.

 

[floyd]

I've never done it & I don't want to... ride the butt out of the snow well the trees sit in in deep snow.

 

[slowp]

I seem to be misunderstood. If it snows too much, he won't start up. Or if it snows a lot while up there, he'll move out. Nope, there will be less snow under the trees right now.

I think my snowshoes will get cobwebs this year.

 

[Burvol]

I seem to be misunderstood. If it snows too much, he won't start up. Or if it snows a lot while up there, he'll move out. Nope, there will be less snow under the trees right now.

I think my snowshoes will get cobwebs this year.

Oh I know what your saying, and I know what happens when it seems to good to be real, it happens. He could gamble and make it though. Back when wood was hot on the Rez, guys ran mechanical sides into 6 feet of snow! The super high elevation that is steep is not good for this time of year, too much can change so quick. He could pull the pin and have his equipment stuck up there until June.

 

[bullbuck]

el nino in warshington?didnt know you guys got it up there slowp.

 

[RVALUE]

el nino in warshington?didnt know you guys got it up there slowp.

Doesn't the el nino and nina affect the entire country? Yes

 

[Burvol]

Doesn't the el nino and nina affect the entire country? Yes

Warmer than usual, wet winter is what we experience, hence the logger could work due to lower snow pack. It's a gamble cause it might get cold again for a while. It only takes three or four days in the Cascades to get 4-8 feet of snow at that elevation.

 

[bullbuck]

Doesn't the el nino and nina affect the entire country? Yes

just saying because el nino or la nina is a tropical moisture,figured they were too far north for that,colorado generally gets low snow amounts in el nino years whereas new mexico generally gets hammered,understand my thinking?

 

[slowp]

Our big floods come when we get the dreaded Pine Apple Express. It is a tropical moisture laden system that flows up this way from Hawaii, hence the name. We'll get tons of rain and warm temps. When it hits in December or January, it rapidly melts the mountain snow plus inundates all the area with rain and we flood.

The logger wrapped his yarder up in plastic, so it was to spend the winter up there. He only needs to get his shovel up and something to plow snow with.
He dang near got to the unit without plowing and it is close to 4000 feet. That's high for this latitude.

 

[RVALUE]

just saying because el nino or la nina is a tropical moisture,figured they were too far north for that,colorado generally gets low snow amounts in el nino years whereas new mexico generally gets hammered,understand my thinking?

It directly or indirectly affects (effects?) the entire country. Mostly the west, though.

Yes those pineapple expresses can put a lot of snow down the crick, quick.

 

[Humptulips]

El Nino and La Nina differences

El Nino
During a warm episode winter, mid-latitude low pressure systems tend to be more vigorous than normal in the region of the eastern North Pacific. These systems pump abnormally warm air into western Canada, Alaska and the extreme northern portion of the contiguous United States. Storms also tend to be more vigorous in the Gulf of Mexico and along the southeast coast of the United States resulting in wetter than normal conditions in that region

La Nina
Mid-latitude low pressure systems tend to be weaker than normal in the region of the Gulf of Alaska, during a cold episode winter. This favors the build-up of colder than normal air over Alaska and western Canada, which often penetrates into the northern Great Plains and the western United States. The southeastern United States, on the other hand, becomes warmer and drier than normal.

I believe I read that we are currently in neither but that an El nino is building.

 

[joesawer]

The snow on the ground means NO tracks in the sensitive areas! SHHHH!!!!!

 

[slowp]

The snow on the ground means NO tracks in the sensitive areas! SHHHH!!!!!

We always see the tracks, you can try, but you can't hide them...

 

[joesawer]

Just stay on top of the snow. If no one sees them before the next snow or before it melts... If it is not documented it never happened.
It can save much choker setting and winching.

But don't get too upset, it is actually prescribed practice in CA forestry regs.

 

[slowp]

I could tell a story, but I won't. Don't plan on more snow to cover up the tracks.

And don't assume the guys you work with won't spill the beans when under the gaze of the mighty stink eye.

 

[joesawer]

I could tell a story, but I won't. Don't plan on more snow to cover up the tracks.

And don't assume the guys you work with won't spill the beans when under the gaze of the mighty stink eye.

Lol don't give me the mighty stink eye. I only do it when it is in the contract and/or under California forest practices. It never happens any other way!

 

[hammerlogging]

thats very funny stuff slowp and joesawyer