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treemandan

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So I was looking for someone else to sub for and I found this guy Tony. I have been working with this guy for a few months and if you think I am nuts you gotta meet this guy.

We did a lot of talking beforehand and every job I had been on with this guy he has about killed himself or me. He talks it up if you know what I mean. I talk, a little, but then I do.

So Tony has a thousand dollar job to do, he sets it up with me and I am there with my pick up ( loaded with tools) and the Dingo. He original said he couldn'r afford the Dingo and only could pay me 150.00 to help him for half a day. Well you can't pay me enough to load logs by hand so I brought the Dingo anyway. Its no big deal, we drop the tree and load it no problem = 150 and I am happy to do it really.
So we set a rope and hook it to the Dingo. Its a Hickory and we just notch and drop it. We start chipping, he has an old chipper but it works and any one of you with half a brain could run it no problem. So I cut and he mans the chipper. We are working at a good pace til one limb is too big to get pulled it by the rollers. Tony keeps trying to get this piece to go through and I am standing behind him with my 26 waithing for him to let me cut it so it will go through. But he keeps trying to pick up this big limb and jam it through this old whupped up chipper. I can tell he is working to hard and its showing if you know what I mean.

He gives up and walks up to me and screams in my face about how the chipper don't like butts, I take step back and say OK. Its an old 12 incher the chipper is. I go up to the limb, cut it and put it through. The limd was just to long and heavy to be picked up by the feedwheels. By the time I did that he positioned himself on the other side of the hopper and when the piece went through it kicked sideways almost taking him down as he is waving and smiling at the HO.

After that I took a few steps back to see what he wants to do. All through out this I maintain good eye contact with the guy and he doesn't shut the chipper down or anything so I go back to limbing up this tree to chip it. I mean the chipper is running so that means stuff should be going through right?

The next limb I started to cut was above my head, I had allready cut the bottom limbs out of the felled tree and started on the high ones. I was going to jump cut this one 5 incher and let it go. So I do the bottom cut and I am reaching above my head here. I can do this, its just gotta go right. While I am doing the top cut he runs up behind me smacking me on the back and trying to start his 192 ( which is for suckers anyway, its Ok I was a sucker at one time too).

I turn my head in the middle of the cut and yell " YO! DOn't start no saw behind me like that!" But he don't stop. The limb I was cutting starts to fall and since I didn't finish the cut it didn't break off and drop so it flops around and hits me in the shoulder while Tony is bolcking my escape route with a half running saw.

CHIPPER MADNESS. Has anyone seen this before? I get it too but I don't let it bother me. No reason to, if it gets bad I shut it down pronto and catch my breath. No need to get all crazy bout some stupid limbs going through the chipper. Right Treeco? Right?
So he tells me to leave and I do. I load up the Dingo and roll.He stopped by my place to give me my 150.00 later on ( oh yeah, you better beleive it I want my cash) and gives me the routine how I didn't listened to him and yelled at him and all that BS. Yeah I yelled at him! He is right on my ass pulling on a saw!
I know I move a little to fast for some people to keep track of but this guy was killing himself trying to get this limb in the chipper which I just cut once and fed through no problem. I am really upset about him firing up that saw right behind me. He was going nuts with it too. I should have just turned round and let him have a taste of my 26 right in the throat and next time I just might.

Seriously, that chipper can make you mad. I have seen countless men loose their cool to it. I also have to say that this guy , Tony, is kinda nuts from the start. Me too I guess but if something like chipping the tree can bring you down...

All through this episode I kept good eye contact with the guy I was working with. I would cut a limb off the downed tree, hit the brake on the saw, put it down and lift the butt towards the chipper so hw could grab it and haul it out. I would make a point to stand where we could both see each faces from time to time and would keep the saw low and hit the brake. CHIPPER MADNESS. You can't let it get you.

The one limb that he had trouble with was about 6 inch dia. He kept beating himself to get it through. When he stepped away I cut it ,flipped it and tossed it in, it almost smacked him in the giblets and he had no idea.
I know this work is hard but I do a lot all by my little bitty self. There is no need to get all rampant in this kind of situation. And I have seen it time and again. They get all worked up, the chipper is screaming, people getting hot from the job and then they try to keep jamming the piece that won't go through into the feedwheels hoping for a miracle. That ain't me babe and God dam if I didn't get my buck fiddy...

So Tony Striedeck of Ornamental LandscaPAIN, I guess its you who put the mental in ornamental. Yeah, I told you I go to work.

But really, CHIPPER MADNESS. You all should know it, be able to identfy it and reconcile it. DOn't let it get you.
 
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So I was looking for someone else to sub for and I found this guy Tony. I have been working with this guy for a few months and if you think I am nuts you gotta meet this guy.

We did a lot of talking beforehand and every job I had been on with this guy he has about killed himself or me. He talks it up if you know what I mean. I talk, a little, but then I do.

So Tony has a thousand dollar job to do, he sets it up with me and I am there with my pick up ( loaded with tools) and the Dingo. He original said he couldn'r afford the Dingo and only could pay me 150.00 to help him for half a day. Well you can't pay me enough to load logs by hand so I brought the Dingo anyway. Its no big deal, we drop the tree and load it no problem = 150 and I am happy to do it really.
So we set a rope and hook it to the Dingo. Its a Hickory and we just notch and drop it. We start chipping, he has an old chipper but it works and any one of you with half a brain could run it no problem. So I cut and he mans the chipper. We are working at a good pace til one limb is too big to get pulled it by the rollers. Tony keeps trying to get this piece to go through and I am standing behind him with my 26 waithing for him to let me cut it so it will go through. But he keeps trying to pick up this big limb and jam it through this old whupped up chipper. I can tell he is working to hard and its showing if you know what I mean.

He gives up and walks up to me and screams in my face about how the chipper don't like butts, I take step back and say OK. Its an old 12 incher the chipper is. I go up to the limb, cut it and put it through. The limd was just to long and heavy to be picked up by the feedwheels. By the time I did that he positioned himself on the other side of the hopper and when the piece went through it kicked sideways almost taking him down as he is waving and smiling at the HO.

After that I took a few steps back to see what he wants to do. All through out this I maintain good eye contact with the guy and he doesn't shut the chipper down or anything so I go back to limbing up this tree to chip it. I mean the chipper is running so that means stuff should be going through right?

The next limb I started to cut was above my head, I had allready cut the bottom limbs out of the felled tree and started on the high ones. I was going to jump cut this one 5 incher and let it go. So I do the bottom cut and I am reaching above my head here. I can do this, its just gotta go right. While I am doing the top cut he runs up behind me smacking me on the back and trying to start his 192 ( which is for suckers anyway, its Ok I was a sucker at one time too).

I turn my head in the middle of the cut and yell " YO! DOn't start no saw behind me like that!" But he don't stop. The limb I was cutting starts to fall and since I didn't finish the cut it didn't break off and drop so it flops around and hits me in the shoulder while Tony is bolcking my escape route with a half running saw.

CHIPPER MADNESS. Has anyone seen this before? I get it too but I don't let it bother me. No reason to, if it gets bad I shut it down pronto and catch my breath. No need to get all crazy bout some stupid limbs going through the chipper. Right Treeco? Right?
So he tells me to leave and I do. I load up the Dingo and roll.He stopped by my place to give me my 150.00 later on ( oh yeah, you better beleive it I want my cash) and gives me the routine how I didn't listened to him and yelled at him and all that BS. Yeah I yelled at him! He is right on my ass pulling on a saw!
I know I move a little to fast for some people to keep track of but this guy was killing himself trying to get this limb in the chipper which I just cut once and fed through no problem. I am really upset about him firing up that saw right behind me. He was going nuts with it too. I should have just turned round and let him have a taste of my 26 right in the throat and next time I just might.

Seriously, that chipper can make you mad. I have seen countless men loose their cool to it. I also have to say that this guy , Tony, is kinda nuts from the start. Me too I guess but if something like chipping the tree can bring you down...

All through this episode I kept good eye contact with the guy I was working with. I would cut a limb off the downed tree, hit the brake on the saw, put it down and lift the butt towards the chipper so hw could grab it and haul it out. I would make a point to stand where we could both see each faces from time to time and would keep the saw low and hit the brake. CHIPPER MADNESS. You can't let it get you.

The one limb that he had trouble with was about 6 inch dia. He kept beating himself to get it through. When he stepped away I cut it ,flipped it and tossed it in, it almost smacked him in the giblets and he had no idea.
I know this work is hard but I do a lot all by my little bitty self. There is no need to get all rampant in this kind of situation. And I have seen it time and again. They get all worked up, the chipper is screaming, people getting hot from the job and then they try to keep jamming the piece that won't go through into the feedwheels hoping for a miracle. That ain't me babe and God dam if I didn't get my buck fiddy...

So Tony Striedeck of Ornamental LandscaPAIN, I guess its you who put the mental in ornamental. Yeah, I told you I go to work.

But really, CHIPPER MADNESS. You all should know it, be able to identfy it and reconcile it. DOn't let it get you.

I've seen that:censored:too many times.:cry:
 
I've seen that:censored:too many times.:cry:

Well I am glad I am not the only one. I felt bad cause we didn't get the job done and all and I gave he guy tons of room. My first concern is safety and the next is efficeincy and they are both big tickets to me. All this wierd crap don't need to be.
 
i hate being anywhere near someone else when two saws are going at the same time. hate it.

tony wear a helmet?

I don't really push anybody in the field whether they are BIG or small. I have respect for the work and respect for the people doing it. That don't mean I don't start hollering at the guy with his head in the clouds cause I will and they know it.

But yeah, he had a helmet. Like you have, I think it was cinched a little to tight on his head or something. It happened to me once so now I wear a helmet with a loose chin strap. I swear I was about to drop trying to keep that helmat where I wanted it, cut off circulation to my head and I started feeling funny.
This was an easy job, we could have been out of there eating lunch bigtime real quick. I mean it was NOTHING. A 1K gig! Notch and drop and go home. He could have called a time out no problem just as well. He lost his head, tried to blame it on me.

Last time I worked with him I climbed a tree and came down for a lunch and little break. I was set to go back up but he notches the whole thing and crushes a few little apple trees. We had plenty of time, Hell! I am The Dan. The HO was watching, he was the guy who won the 60 million lottery. I fixed the trees he smashed with drywall screws, arbortie and some of that Lac balsam which I recomend for those " faux paus" we all have once in a while but I don't go notching no trees that don't fit.
 
Did you ever check to see if this guy might be an assclown?

well the guy was paying bout 700 per day for just me and my truck full-o -gear.
The first job we went to together he was doing like 80 driving his truck and chipper down 202 southbound into west Chester.
 
I think you answered your own questions Dan. We all need money but you gotta live to spend it. Leave him to his own kind of madness so he doesnt deprive us of yours. :cheers:
 
Sorry for being niave on the topic but can someone describe "chipper madness"? I may have been a victim of it in the past and din't know. :confused:

Come on. You know and have probably seen it a few times. Kinda the same thing as STUMP MADNESS. When a guy trying to finish off the stump, the chain dull, its late, you have been sucking in exhaust fumes...
 
I guess I have been a victim of chipper madness. Usually its when I see the groundie trying to force a branch into the chipper instead of cutting it or when he decides to let the roller jump over and over on the log trying to bring it in, breaking the roller bar twice in one month. Ya, I guess I know what it is now.
 
I guess I have been a victim of chipper madness. Usually its when I see the groundie trying to force a branch into the chipper instead of cutting it or when he decides to let the roller jump over and over on the log trying to bring it in, breaking the roller bar twice in one month. Ya, I guess I know what it is now.

I got a case of it the other day when I went to pull the shoot pivot lever down and the rubber grip just slides off and my elbow slammed into the steel. I tossed the rubber grip.
Other than that I don't let it get to me. If the peice won't go in after a try or two, pull it out and cut it so it will. Trying to jam a piece in like that only brings on the madness time and again.
I bet Tony still has no idea how close he came to getting SMASHED in the yarbles.If it hit him he would have gone down and going down in front of a chipper is not what you want to be doing, nope. It was obvious he was on a kamikazi mission from go.
the other week I had him help me on a 2k gig which we split 50/50. HE lost a track to the stumper and we are in the mud trying to get it back on when he phone rings so he answers. Now he is operating a broken piece of equipment with my hand in the track while on the phone. I pulled my hand out and stood back. While he wa son the phone he gets into the bobcat which was lifting the stumper and starts to put the lift arms down. well he didn't shut the door... I heard those things are kinda pricey.
 
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