Millerstree
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I Am Interested In Doing Sub Work On Fema Projects. What Rates Can I Expect For Removing Hangers And For Whole Removals? Thanks
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jonseredbred
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Very low rates. It is all contract specific. You wont ever work directly for FEMA. You work for a sub of a sub of a sub who holds a contract w/FEMA.
If you get work, you can guarantee you will be at least 4 or 5 companies deep in the chain.
For example if a disaster contractor bids 140.00 per tree for hazard limb removal, by the time it gets to you the pay will be 40 to 50 per tree.
Unless there is a disaster within 30 miles of you, spend your time developing your business at home.
If you get work, you can guarantee you will be at least 4 or 5 companies deep in the chain.
For example if a disaster contractor bids 140.00 per tree for hazard limb removal, by the time it gets to you the pay will be 40 to 50 per tree.
Unless there is a disaster within 30 miles of you, spend your time developing your business at home.
arborealbuffoon
Wood Wh@re
I had a friend who went to work for the local municipality following a major windstorm. He ran a landscaping company, but figured he'd run out and rent the last 12" disc chipper in the area and pull it around with his truck. Local forestry department was BEGGING anyone with equipment and insurance to come out. By the time he had racked up several grand in chipper rental and a whole bunch of labor and fuel, the anticipated FEMA grant money was denied and payment obligations reverted back to the city/county govt's. The rates that they would pay barely covered his rental bill.
As for myself, I would rather pull my own toenails out with vise-grips than go storm chasing. And, yes, I DO have my reasons.......
As for myself, I would rather pull my own toenails out with vise-grips than go storm chasing. And, yes, I DO have my reasons.......
Munkee feet
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Fema
I chased a storm once because I thought there would be money to be made and I like to help others in need. After I got into the storm damaged area...I could not find 1 job. Many local people had been out of work (because of the storm) and insurance had not paid anybody for any damage. All the work FEMA was doing came from contracts given to companys in Texas and Florida. (both Bush states)..and they were not giving any work to the locals or any other tree service that was chasing. I lost thousands.
Munkee feet
I chased a storm once because I thought there would be money to be made and I like to help others in need. After I got into the storm damaged area...I could not find 1 job. Many local people had been out of work (because of the storm) and insurance had not paid anybody for any damage. All the work FEMA was doing came from contracts given to companys in Texas and Florida. (both Bush states)..and they were not giving any work to the locals or any other tree service that was chasing. I lost thousands.
Munkee feet
Munkee feet
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Fema
I am not sure "exactly" what it stands for, but its something like Federal Emergency managment Assessment...or something like that...its when we have a huge disaster and the govt comes in to help clean up..or should I say pays for it. I hope that helps. Munkee feet
I am not sure "exactly" what it stands for, but its something like Federal Emergency managment Assessment...or something like that...its when we have a huge disaster and the govt comes in to help clean up..or should I say pays for it. I hope that helps. Munkee feet
Federal Emergency Mgt. Agency
I know a guy who went to LA after Katrina to do some road clearing.
He was contracted by FEMA.
They were getting paid big bucks, I heard anywhere from $100-210 per cut depending on the contract to clear only between the white lines on the roads.
Here's a good piece of advice, KEEP GOOD RECORDS OF YOUR WORK.
FEMA "lost" the records and the guy tells me he didn't get paid for $50,000 worth of work.
Once the work is done it's hard to go back and count cut up trees.
He regrets not keeping good records. A picture per cut for documentation is a small price to pay when each cut is worth $200.
Of course, this is only one instance in a large amount of contracts/subcontracts. Your mileage may vary a huge amount.
He was contracted by FEMA.
They were getting paid big bucks, I heard anywhere from $100-210 per cut depending on the contract to clear only between the white lines on the roads.
Here's a good piece of advice, KEEP GOOD RECORDS OF YOUR WORK.
FEMA "lost" the records and the guy tells me he didn't get paid for $50,000 worth of work.
Once the work is done it's hard to go back and count cut up trees.
He regrets not keeping good records. A picture per cut for documentation is a small price to pay when each cut is worth $200.
Of course, this is only one instance in a large amount of contracts/subcontracts. Your mileage may vary a huge amount.
Timberhauler
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Unless a hurricane pounds South Carolina again,I won't chase storms anymore.I have a friend who owns a fairly large operation,and he is still owed $100,000 by FEMA.
I Can Finally Help You Guys!!!
Finally, after all the info i have recieved from you guys i can give some back!. I worked for and still do consult for the Forestry Department in Va. Here is the ticket if you want to make GOOD money and still do gravy storm work.
Most all states are now recieving federal monies for storm work to lower wildfire fuel loads after large storms or events that cause severe tree mortality (bark beetle, tip moth) outbreaks. The key to this is, getting your name on the state lists PRIOR to the storms. In 95% of the cases all you need to do is pay a small processing fee, usually $50, and show a proof of insurance and a business license. From this point on, you will be contacted whenever there is clean up to be done and the monies, as per written in the federal guidelines, is paid upon 30 days of completion of work.
I hope this helps you guys out some, let me know if i can help somemore
Finally, after all the info i have recieved from you guys i can give some back!. I worked for and still do consult for the Forestry Department in Va. Here is the ticket if you want to make GOOD money and still do gravy storm work.
Most all states are now recieving federal monies for storm work to lower wildfire fuel loads after large storms or events that cause severe tree mortality (bark beetle, tip moth) outbreaks. The key to this is, getting your name on the state lists PRIOR to the storms. In 95% of the cases all you need to do is pay a small processing fee, usually $50, and show a proof of insurance and a business license. From this point on, you will be contacted whenever there is clean up to be done and the monies, as per written in the federal guidelines, is paid upon 30 days of completion of work.
I hope this helps you guys out some, let me know if i can help somemore
Buffalo NY paid lousy. They had trees down half-way to Maine. We got lucky in Miss. for about five weeks, pulled out last Tuesday. We're still in New Orleans. It's paying between 35 and 55 a hanger. Leaners and dead paying substantially more per diameter of course. Stumps still holding their own for pulling them out but now FEMA is considering grinding them in place as a viable option. We got there right after Rita and we still have about six crews working. Pictures are sometimes mandatory before and after. The bottom line is the crews make a weeks worth of money in about a month! Our company has waited up to nineteen months for payment from the prime.
You need extremely deep pockets to chase storm. I've been at it eleven years and they call me junior !
You need extremely deep pockets to chase storm. I've been at it eleven years and they call me junior !
Buffalo NY paid lousy. They had trees down half-way to Maine. We got lucky in Miss. for about five weeks, pulled out last Tuesday. We're still in New Orleans. It's paying between 35 and 55 a hanger. Leaners and dead paying substantially more, per diameter of course. Stumps still holding their own for pulling them out but now FEMA is considering grinding them in place as a viable option. We got there right after Rita and we still have about six crews working. Pictures are sometimes mandatory before and after. The bottom line is the crews make a weeks worth of money in about a month! Our company has waited up to nineteen months for payment from the prime.
You need extremely deep pockets to chase storm. I've been at it eleven years and they call me junior !
You need extremely deep pockets to chase storm. I've been at it eleven years and they call me junior !
Forget FEMA, Just Wade IN
I went to Pensacola, FL. before hurricane Ivan. I came from central Illinois.
I had lived in Pensacola for 11 years so knew my way around. FEMA had a staging area for tree co's that stretched for miles. I met a crew that came from Maryland. At the crack of dawn following the storm the games began! This crew went to the most wealthy areas first, BIG homes with Big red oaks and pines on their roofs, through their windows etc. I have lived through four hurricanes in my 49 yrs but never have seen such damage as with Ivan. I stayed only 2 weeks. But the Maryland crew rented a house and stayed for months, working both Pensacola and Mobile, AL. Hangers paid MUCH more then FEMA. I worked a house along side the Maryland crew one day and learned that the homeowner paid $600.00 to have three medium sized pine limbs removed, about 45 minutes of work. Granted for every job such as this there are hundreds that pay less. But the Maryland crew made out VERY GOOD.
I went to Pensacola, FL. before hurricane Ivan. I came from central Illinois.
I had lived in Pensacola for 11 years so knew my way around. FEMA had a staging area for tree co's that stretched for miles. I met a crew that came from Maryland. At the crack of dawn following the storm the games began! This crew went to the most wealthy areas first, BIG homes with Big red oaks and pines on their roofs, through their windows etc. I have lived through four hurricanes in my 49 yrs but never have seen such damage as with Ivan. I stayed only 2 weeks. But the Maryland crew rented a house and stayed for months, working both Pensacola and Mobile, AL. Hangers paid MUCH more then FEMA. I worked a house along side the Maryland crew one day and learned that the homeowner paid $600.00 to have three medium sized pine limbs removed, about 45 minutes of work. Granted for every job such as this there are hundreds that pay less. But the Maryland crew made out VERY GOOD.
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