Need Help Carlton 2500-4 bought without engine

[ackmod]

Got this machine but missing the guts around engine to operate .....so called bee hive ....pulley at engine ....guess more stuff.....around pulley on engine....spacer......belt to next shaft...and cover.. all we got is plastic spyder gear goes to hydraulic pump guess mounted/connected end engine shaft to operate hydraulics.
Have not got to pricing but me thinks alot of dough and possibly difficulty...seen normally equiped with 25-27-30hp Kohler...seen deal on WISCONSIN V465D but think that has 2 inch shaft vs Kohler that had 1 7/16
Its a 1994 machine.....just joined the forum to get some insight as my search for outside the box or to go the right road thru dealer........looks limited and would guess going to have to travel that way ........was thinking could run hydraulic motor off one engine and run machine with chain off another......although constantly running safety issue possibly...like to hear anyone got any knowledge with this machine..
Thanks

 

[Mowingman]

Take it to the scrapyard. Use the money you get for it, to help with your downpayment on an operating/useable machine.
That project is going to be a money pit before you are all done with it. IF, you ever do get done with it.
Jeff

 

[ackmod]

Have seen you have a 44 Hp Kubota diesel.....how big is the shaft on that thing?

 

[Eq Broker]

The stub shaft on a 33hp or 44hp Kubota is an 1 1/2". The grinder you have was only designed for a 25 to 27hp engine only. When you go to a 33hp or bigger you'll have to change the following:

-Engine Mount
-Jack Shaft and Jack Shaft Bearings to 1 11/16"
-Cutter Wheel Shaft and Shaft Bearings to 1 11/16"
-New Drive Belt
-Upper and Lower Poly Chain Sprockets and Bushings
-New Poly Chain Belt

The shafts and bearings can't handle the additional torque of the diesel engine and you take the risk of breaking them. If I we're you, I would take it back to factory specs and play it safe. The cost involved in adding additional horsepower doesn't make good business sense as you can see what's involved.

Hope this helps!

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters

 

[ackmod]

trying to get parts price readout here soon with local dealer
will keep it in the same power category....basically need all parts on 4012 under Kohler engine page 106 on pdf file
5 2300205 Bee Hive Belt Keeper - Top 1
6 7/16"-14 x 1 3/4" HHCS 1
7 7/16" Lock Washer 1
8 05506102 Bee Hive- Kohler 1
9 2300206 Bee Hive Belt Keeper - Bottom 1
10 0150103 3/8-16 x 1" Hex Cap Screw 1
11 0150404 3/8 Lock Washer 1
12 0250119 Bushing - 25 Engine -SH 1 7/16 1
13 0250101 Sheave 2500 SP4012 4/3V3.0 1
14 - Key - 3/8" x 5/16" x 1 1/4" 1
15 0150120 5/16-18 x 1" HSHCS 2
16 0250133 Coupling - 23/25 Engine 1
17 0250134 Spider Insert - 23/25 1
18 0250132 Coupling - 23/25 Pump 1
19 2300199 Pump Mounting Plate-2500 1
20 3/8"-16 x 1 1/2" HHCS 2
21 0150207 3/8-16 Lock Nut 2
22
23 0300142G Hyd Pump 4012- Bucher (w/Key) 1
24 SP2500119 Motor Plate - SP2000 1
25 0400101 Belt 23/25/SP4012Khlr 4/3V670 1
26 2300247 Engine V-Belt Guard 2500 1
27 2300246 Engine Belt Guard Cover

minus a few parts ...have hydraulic pump and spider gear for 1 7/16 shaft..think pump mounting plate

 

[Eq Broker]

I think that's the best route to take. It would be too much money to convert the grinder to a higher horsepower. If you need any grinder teeth in the future, give me a call.

Thanks,

Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-966-9056

 

[ackmod]

If I bought everything on the list its 100 dollars shy of 2 thousand...and like say have some parts...could keep it to essentials to setup the machine for around $700..........course still got to find and buy the motor

 

[CalTreeEquip]

???

 

[ackmod]

will buy Kohler 25-27-29 and parts to get going engine pully for shaft bushing and front coupler to pump and beehive to connect
looking for engine regularly .....much better understanding of setup now