New gear; saddle and pants

[telluridearb]

The new petzl sequoia is really nice! I like the adjustment possibilities of the weight transfer between the the legs and the hips, it doesn't have much cushy padding but its still great. The large caritool is the chainsaw carrier I have been waiting for and it plugs into the sequoia without moving around at all!

The stretch air pants however are maybe a bit too euro. Big flaps on all the pockets, velcro ankles, and a bit of a high waist band. I'm not sure if I'm sold, I just got the package from sherrill and I might have to send them back.
I have searched all the threads and haven't found any solid reviews from anybody here in the states. I think the arborwear tech pants might work just fine but all the hype of the nano sphere stuff has me interested.

So whats the consensus? Anybody wearing these stretch air pants out there?

Thanks,
Tyler

 

[Nailsbeats]

Not me

I wear uniform pants in the summer or when it is warm enough. They are light, they breath and offer zero protection, but hey I am already up in a tree, why not go for the comfortable pants. Other than that, Carhart bibs or Jonsered pants in the woods. No Euro crap for me.

 

[Jim1NZ]

On the stretch air front, i have had a pair for 6 months and realy thrashed them. So far they have held up well, im happy with the preformance overall. The velcro pockets ect have never presented any drama what so ever.

Advantages

Pockets - Zips zip down so they dont come open, have tabs so ya can zip with gloves on, velcro pockets are good there is a mobile ph pocket on the RHS and on the LHS is spare for me or a wallet pocket.

Boot sawdust protector - keeps everything out plus covers your shoe laces from being caught or untied

Over all wear/comfort ect - Average weight, very stretchy but still slightly restrictive as any chainsaw pants are, relativly cool in hot weather and excellent if there is a breaze, good belt loops ect, kevlar knees and lower leg for good abrasion resistance.

Price - Actually very reasonable and shouldnt be a huge issue anyway.

Disadvantage

I dont like the zip at the bottom, they are water proof zips and everything but they open up when walking around. Thats it for me.


'Best chain saw pants ever warn, great investment for the professional arborist' Scott Forrest.

I think they are the excellent and the Germans have thought about everything.

Its all about the image (jokes) and these reach the mark for me.

Cheers James

 

[reachtreeservi]

On the stretch air front, i have had a pair for 6 months and realy thrashed them. So far they have held up well, im happy with the preformance overall. The velcro pockets ect have never presented any drama what so ever.

Advantages

Pockets - Zips zip down so they dont come open, have tabs so ya can zip with gloves on, velcro pockets are good there is a mobile ph pocket on the RHS and on the LHS is spare for me or a wallet pocket.

Boot sawdust protector - keeps everything out plus covers your shoe laces from being caught or untied

Over all wear/comfort ect - Average weight, very stretchy but still slightly restrictive as any chainsaw pants are, relativly cool in hot weather and excellent if there is a breaze, good belt loops ect, kevlar knees and lower leg for good abrasion resistance.

Price - Actually very reasonable and shouldnt be a huge issue anyway.

Disadvantage

I dont like the zip at the bottom, they are water proof zips and everything but they open up when walking around. Thats it for me.


'Best chain saw pants ever warn, great investment for the professional arborist' Scott Forrest.

I think they are the excellent and the Germans have thought about everything.

Its all about the image (jokes) and these reach the mark for me.

Cheers James

Stretch air pants are not chainsaw pants. They are climbers pants.
They offer no protection from a chainsaw at all.

For about the same money, you can buy a pair of SIP 5.1 or SIP Comfort range chainsaw pants from Sherriltree.
Which do have chainsaw protection.

 

[Jim1NZ]

Stretch air pants are not chainsaw pants. They are climbers pants.
They offer no protection from a chainsaw at all.

For about the same money, you can buy a pair of SIP 5.1 or SIP Comfort range chainsaw pants from Sherriltree.
Which do have chainsaw protection.

Ha it that right? Got a pair have you?

Mine say EN-381-5 certified class 1, 20m/sec chainsaw protection trousers.

Do your research before leading people astray mate.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Ha it that right? Got a pair have you?

Mine say EN-381-5 certified class 1, 20m/sec chainsaw protection trousers.

Do your research before leading people astray mate.

Jim, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe we are talking about different products. But I don't think so.

Do you have a Sherriltree catalog?

Look on page 103. In the top right of the page there is a picture of the pants.
The page reads " Stretch-Air Climbing Pants"

Right under the picture is this quote " These pants are not chainsaw protective." unquote

They are also not listed on there website under the chainsaw protective clothing header but rather a seperate listing under StretchAir.

Maybe because you are in a different country they are selling another product under this name.
And I'm not saying that you don't have a pair of chainsaw protective pants.

I'm saying that the product sold in the USA by the biggest tree equipment retailer and other lesser retailers under the name Stretch-Air Pants isn't chainsaw protective.

And I assure you that before I would spend $218.00 on a pair of pants to climb in , that I did plenty of research.

Lastly my intent was not to mislead anyone.Or even to disagree with you.
My intent was to prevent someone who only had limited funds and needed protective gear from purchasing pants that were not. Which is a positive reason.

Look on the sherriltree website and tell me if we are talking about the same thing.

http://gear.sherrilltree.com/

 

[Jim1NZ]

Cheers for clearing that up mate.

You are correct in that sherril tree do not have chainsaw protective stretch air pants in their catelogue. I got mine in Sweden, they are everywhere in Europe.

I find it strange that sherril would stock the climbing pants and not offer any sort of chainsaw protective pants in that line. Surely you would be able to pick them up in the states some where though?

Im in USA at the moment but havent been into any arborist supply shops just yet, so im sure you would know more about what they do and dont have than I.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Cheers for clearing that up mate.

You are correct in that sherril tree do not have chainsaw protective stretch air pants in their catelogue. I got mine in Sweden, they are everywhere in Europe.

I find it strange that sherril would stock the climbing pants and not offer any sort of chainsaw protective pants in that line. Surely you would be able to pick them up in the states some where though?

Im in USA at the moment but havent been into any arborist supply shops just yet, so im sure you would know more about what they do and dont have than I.

No worries Mate !

If you get a chance while you are in the states check out the SIP 5.1 or SIP Comfort range chainsaw pants and tell us how they compare to what you're using in Europe. Be sure and post the differences.

 

[NickfromWI]

Pfanner doesn't yet make 6 layer chainsaw protective pants. OSHA requires 6 layers. I think that's why sherrill doesn't share them.

I don't think it should matter how many layers. It's more than the ZERO that most people are wearing.

love
nick

 

[Bermie]

Pfanner Stretch Air are made in climbers pants with no protection, Class A front protection only and Class C all round protection. I know 'cause I emailed Pfanner and got a personal reply from the dude himself!

BTW Sip is FRENCH...! I wear their chainsaw boots.

As for arborwear Tech Pants, I have a pair, had them for two years, wear them on the ground and in the tree, so far...bombproof, great for the summer, wick away the sweat, dry quickly, the cargo pockets are just in the right spot for a few slings and a wedge, easy to open and close.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Thanks Bermie ! Does anyone have a website or US retailer for the Class C all round protection Pfanner Stretch Air pants ?

 

[Jim1NZ]

Ok i dont know about in America but here is what i know...

http://www.treeworker.co.uk/acatalog/Chainsaw_Trousers_38.html

..........Stretch Air type C extreme chainsaw protective trousers..........Ref: CT010

- EN 381-5: Protective clothing against cuts.
- Class 1 protection 20m/sec with 6 layers of blocking material
- Type C protection covers each leg all around (360°). The protection starts at the bottom of the leg and ends at above the front side of the crotch.
- All-round protection is recommended for Arborists working in trees and occasional users such as those working in agriculture. (HSE Chainsaws at Work)
- The front of the legs are covered with Kevlar-Keprotec, giving protection from thorns. Tear proof and waterproof, as well as abrasion and oil resistant.
- Heavy duty button fixings for braces. Metal zippers on the fly and pockets.
- Fully lined legs with Stretch-Air distance material. The Protection is fully seamed with a 50mm piece of Schoeller to protect the inner chainsaw protection from snags from boot eyelets.



If your are not interested no skin off my noise but these are the facts. Im not going to find an American supplier, i already have a pair of the climbing pants and chainsaw trousers which are great. Best of luck.

 

[reachtreeservi]

If I wasn't interested in buying a pair, I wouldn't have asked for a US source.
And we already established that the ones you have are chainsaw protective, you don't have to be so defensive.

I don't care whether you do or don't find an American supplier, but in order for someone in the US
(Most but not all, of everyone on the forum) to purchase the pants, then there will have to be someone selling them in the US. Which was the purpose of my question.

 

[Bermie]

I find it very hard to buy the European style chainsaw pants in the US.
I saw some Husqvarna ones in England that I liked, stretchy, had ventilation zips in the back, type A. They were to pricey for me at the time, had spent all my money already!
When I got back to Bermuda I went to the Husky dealer and enquired about them, but because we are considered part of the US market, the European Husky chainsaw pants were not available! Same goes for the Stihl hi flex pants that I already own.

I would think you are going to have to buy them from a UK/Euro dealer and ship them over...too bad the dollar is so weak against euro currencies right now.

 

[pigwot]

That's odd, the specs on the Treeworker site say they do have 6 layer protection. So what is OSHA's beef about 'em?

 

[Jim1NZ]

Sorry i dont mean to be defensive but its just everyone is saying they dont actually make chainsaw pants which is false, they do. Ya just cant seem to get them in the states....

Yea they seem to meet the regs i dont know whats the deal.

 

[Bermie]

The explaination I got from Husqvarna here was that it is the difference in regulatory bodies.
Just because something is CE marked for Europe does not automaticaly transfer it to ANSI/OSHA standards, they have to do their own independant testing on this side of the pond...and until then...no get over here!

Check inside your Petzl helmet, it will have CE and ANSI, each side has given their approval that the kit meets their standards.

 

[pigwot]

The explaination I got from Husqvarna here was that it is the difference in regulatory bodies.
Just because something is CE marked for Europe does not automaticaly transfer it to ANSI/OSHA standards, they have to do their own independant testing on this side of the pond...and until then...no get over here!

Check inside your Petzl helmet, it will have CE and ANSI, each side has given their approval that the kit meets their standards.

Wow! I just checked my Petzl; must admit I never had read those little stickers before. Threw out my back a few days ago, so I have time to inspect the inside of my hardhat rather than have it on my head. I will be going to Germany and possibly the Czech Republic this summer. (We hosted a teacher from Germany for two weeks and my wife, also a teacher, is doing the reciprocal exchange in June. I'll bicycle from Prague into Germany and meet her at the end of her teachers' program) I was going to check out the Pfanner pants when I am there, and hopefully get to meet some of the local Baumzüchter while I'm there.