New Husqvarna 465 Rancher

[mpgido]

Not sure if anyone is interested but I just noticed that Husqvarna is now listing a 465 Rancher in it's line up.
It appears to be a Autotune with snaplock top cover instead of screw studs.

Cylinder displacement 64.1 cm³
Cylinder displacement 3.91 cu.inch
Power output 4.29 hp
Maximum power speed 9600 rpm
Torque, max. 3.49 Nm
Weight 13.45 lbs

 

[Franny K]

It shares the manual with the 455 but has it's own parts sheet or ipl.

bore 49mm stroke 34mm
spring anti vibe
rim drive sprocket
bottom of clamshell engine appears to be the main chassis not engine module and chassis.
Looks to have separate carb for fuel and strato air "carb" for air. Not sure the exact terms for them.
I see some auto tune stuff in the picture but not numbered.
$90 less than a 555 in this market

 

[kstrayhorn]

Damn, wonder how much I would lose trading my 460R for that. Considering price differential, the gains on the 465 look like a great deal for my uses anyway.

 

[J. Talley]

Are they phasing out the 365?

 

[mpgido]

If they hold to current trend, I'm guessing they will keep the 365 until they decide the future of the 372xp and will then add the next gen 365 to the mid-tier Autotune saws like with the 545 and 555.

 

[sethlynwood]

I saw the 465 floating around on facebook it's not listed on the power site but I found a part number for a 465 20 3/8 .050 saw and I needed a extra hand held to get free shipping so i ordered a 465 will have more info Monday when it gets in and i will post pics

 

[BGE541]

I want to try one just because from past experience with a little love the ranchers can be good saws.

 

[Franny K]

Which bar mount and which size rim drive?

 

[mpgido]

I want to try one just because from past experience with a little love the ranchers can be good saws.

I agree on the Ranchers being good saws as long as you remember there intended purpose. When I was a kid, my dad had a Stihl 045av for our firewood, so my idea of a firewood saw was a little skewed. Thirty years later as I've been able to get back into cutting firewood, I started by borrowing a coworker's non-mtronic 362 and brand new 460 Rancher. For what I thought was a plastic saw, I was impressed how well it ran with the 362, not quite the same, but close enough to be a good 8-10 cord a year saw. I don't know about down the road longevity, but after taking off the 24" bar it came with and putting on a more appropriate bar and chain for it's power , I like cutting with it. I bought that rancher from the friend for $250 with about 10 tanks through, most by me. I figured it was too good a price to pass up. I later (2014) impulse purchased a brand new 2011 357xp from a dealer. I love the 357, it cuts fast and feels good in the hand, but I still find it hard to swallow the $730 price tag it came with. If I hadn't seen the grass on the other side of the fence, I would have been just happy with what I had.

I did like that the hp rating of the new 465 is a decent jump in power compared to the minimal difference between the 455 and 460. It looks like the first bigger 400 series that will be competitive with the same cc Stihl.

This was my part of my breaking in the 460, no complaints.

 

[mpgido]

I saw the 465 floating around on facebook it's not listed on the power site but I found a part number for a 465 20 3/8 .050 saw and I needed a extra hand held to get free shipping so i ordered a 465 will have more info Monday when it gets in and i will post pics

I was just wondering if you had any update on the 465 you order. Not to rush you, just curious!

 

[BGE541]

Ordered a 465 yesterday... Dealer didn't even know about it til he looked on the site and called his rep. Rated at 4.29 or 4.39 HP...

 

[svk]

A few thoughts.

I think this will be a great saw provided there are no AT hiccups, power to weight is very respectable for a HO model. Although the bore and stroke is different from a 365 so this appears to be a totally new engine? I would think this would be husky large mount.

Regarding the 365, I would honestly think that it's successor would be based off the 562 and not the 70CC class of saws. But that is just me. If you added 5 cc to the 562 it's HP output would be darn close to the present 372.

 

[BGE541]

It's the regular Husky large mount. For the price you can't beat it for a 4.3whatever HP, autotune saw, really just want to mess with it

 

[svk]

In case I missed it, what is the asking price on this?

 

[BGE541]

I was told MSRP was $549.

 

[mpgido]

A few thoughts.

I think this will be a great saw provided there are no AT hiccups, power to weight is very respectable for a HO model. Although the bore and stroke is different from a 365 so this appears to be a totally new engine? I would think this would be husky large mount.

Regarding the 365, I would honestly think that it's successor would be based off the 562 and not the 70CC class of saws. But that is just me. If you added 5 cc to the 562 it's HP output would be darn close to the present 372.

Asking out of ignorance, how would they add the 5cc's? I understand boring and stroking an automotive engine, but from reading this site, there isn't that much play in these 2 strokes. Would they redo the top end and lengthen the stroke, or redo the cylinder to increase the bore? What is the most common way manufactures bump the CC's without getting to the point they have a new engine design. Thanks for the help.

 

[svk]

I am not sure of the limitations of the 562 powerhead itself but normally by increasing bore and/or stroke nominally can achieve this.

The 562 and 365 share the same stroke but the 365 has a 2mm larger piston. So a new cylinder based off the 562 design would need to be manufactured to achieve this. Again I am not familiar if this can be achieved within the parameters of the 562 chassis, but this would be a very light and powerful saw!

 

[mpgido]

I am not sure of the limitations of the 562 powerhead itself but normally by increasing bore and/or stroke nominally can achieve this.

The 562 and 365 share the same stroke but the 365 has a 2mm larger piston. So a new cylinder would need to be manufactured to achieve this. Again I am not familiar if this can be achieved within the parameters of the 562 chassis, but this would be a very light and powerful saw!

It would be an awesome saw! I would like to get a saw that will pull a 24" bar with purpose, and I like the 562 based on the reviews, but even with how strong they are, I am trying to decide if it would be better to go 372 or 576 so I don't overlap to closely with my 357. I only have one more good saw purchase left before my wife will start making me pay. She already immune to me trying to spin numbers and logical appeals, so I have just one emotional appeal left to work with. I've been waiting to see if Husqvarna does anythings with a 70cc saw in the next year or two and if it fits this months perfect power-price-weight ratio! A 65cc 562 variant would be nice!

 

[svk]

A 357 is definitely one of Husky's all stars. Despite a little increase in power, I wouldn't buy a 562 either if I already owned a 357!

Or you could just port your 357 and it would run very close to a stock 372 and weigh a lot less!

The 372 has a heck of a following and folks seem to like the 576 although it hasnt garnered the respect that the 372 did. Although I do think a lot of the orange faithful are waiting to see what is coming next from Husky in the 70cc plus range. They sure hit a home run with the 550 and 562 (of course excluding the ones with AT issues).

 

[BGE541]

I like the 372s when ported but a stock or mild modded 576 is good. I think the 465 is the test subject for the mid size/strato/AT concept that will soon replace something in the current lineup...