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Thank you for your reply and I will try. . I was kinda thinking a S.A.K.A. and foot ascender would be beneficial for energy exertion. I am not sure of the normal approach, but I am in proximity of the tree as I have been kind using it with body thrusts. I know my body thrust technique is bad and I will get it better, but thinking getting a leg or both legs in the mix would help but then juggle that with complicated setup, etc. Andy double rope people use a foot ascender and/or saka?