Percentage of jobs

[Abbershay]

What would you est . is the percentage of work/ calls .

I am at about 99 percent. Sign i am not charging enough.

Do you always give a bid even if they dont ask for one?

If they dont ask for one i just do it .. and allot of times they probly get a better price.

Do you charge doctors and lawyers more... I always try to charge them more.

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by Abbershay
Do you charge doctors and lawyers more... I always try to charge them more.

I charge everyone fairly, I just don't feel bad if the number I come up with is high on easy money people. I get most (80%?) of the jobs I bid. Now if the customer is a pain in my side, or otherwise anal I will boost the price to cover my time messing with them.

Carl

 

[Nickrosis]

Originally posted by Abbershay
Do you charge doctors and lawyers more... I always try to charge them more.

That's funny. Too bad it's illegal -- I hope you're kidding.

Edit: Maybe not illegal, but unethical to me.

 

[Abbershay]

I wish i wasnt kidding, most of the time i dont find out until after... But i think it would be a good practice ... esspecailly since they charged me 2500.00 for 15 minutes of work.

 

[Lumberjack]

But it is mighty hard to prove now aint it. When is the last time you had 2 identical trees that where on 2 different payrolls?

Carl

 

[Nickrosis]

Re: Re: Percentage of jobs

Originally posted by Lumberjack
Now if the customer is a pain in my side, or otherwise anal I will boost the price to cover my time messing with them.

Now that you can do. It's all part of the job - an anal person will make you do more than some happy-go-lucky guy who says just do it while I'm at work. Detail-oriented job=more work=higher bid. Flopping a tree and letting the homeowner clean up=much less work=much lower bid.

What you can't do is tell someone that because of their career or gender or race or geographic location, "it'll be about $2000," when you'd tell someone of your gender, race, and background, "it'll be about $1000." For the same job of course. Anything else is discrimination.

Maybe it doesn't make sense in the service world, but it's crystal clear in the retail industry. If you had to pay a premium because, to be a random career, you're an arborist. You would be outraged! And rightfully so. If landscapers paid half of what you paid, you would think it was unfair. Same concept applied to the service industry. Same product/service=same price.

Nickrosis

 

[Abbershay]

i had an accountant tell me he had more money than time so go ahead and do the job.... i got a kick out of that one...

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by Nickrosis
Maybe it doesn't make sense in the service world, but it's crystal clear in the retail industry. If you had to pay a premium because, to be a random career, you're an arborist. You would be outraged! And rightfully so. If landscapers paid half of what you paid, you would think it was unfair. Same concept applied to the service industry. Same product/service=same price.

Nickrosis

In retail it would be easy, but in the service industry it would be hard to prove at best because of all the variables.

Carl

 

[Nickrosis]

But ethically speaking, I hope no would do that conciously. Besides, do you really want to charge a lawyer more when that customer probably has greater knowledge about discrimination criteria, laws and precedents than ten of us combined?

 

[Abbershay]

Actually it isnt discrimination . It has nothing to do with race or religion or gender. I dont think profession is on the list..

Actually if it is discrimination the Government is really guilty They charge those guys even more.

One more thing to consider , it is a choice , no one is forcing them to accept the bid.

 

[ORclimber]

Don't discriminate by profession. Do it by how nice the neighborhood is and what kind of cars are in the driveway .

 

[Lumberjack]

Actually if it is discrimination the Government is really guilty They charge those guys even more.

Didn't even think of that. The higher your income, the higher your tax bracket, meaning the more you make, the higher percentage they take.


Carl

 

[treeman82]

A number of companies down in Peekskill just got into some BIG trouble because they were caught fixing prices. However they are linen companies.

 

[Nickrosis]

Maybe it isn't illegal. I just seems terribly unethical and not something I would want to be known for doing. Would probably deep-six any dealings with upper end clients.

 

[Abbershay]

I think its discrimination that i have to pay the same for gas as those doctors and lawyers. Its all a matter of perspective.

The poorer you are the more of your net worth you have to spend to live .

so really by charging them more you are making a more fair society. remember its a choice....

am i selling anyone here?

 

[MasterBlaster]

I would say stick it to the docters and the lawers.

I would say they(as a profession) are the biggest PITA ever to work for. Double that if they are India Indian.

THATS what I would say.

But I won't. :angel:

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

You have it backwards, you give those less able to pay a slight discount. Seniors in an economicly depressed area...

In the retail industry they do it all the time, Doctors charge the uninsured less for many tests and proscedures.

 

[mikecross23]

Deceptive and unfair trade practices is what I dealt w/ while working for the Florida Attorney General's Office. We investigated price fixing through out the state. I see where Abbershay is coming from, but I don't agree. I feel like it is his perogative to submit whatever bid price he wants to who ever. Like he said, "No one is forcing them to accept the bid." But I don't think it is a fair trade practice. The white collar class went to school for many years and has put in their due time to be rewarded w/ a high paying profession. Therefore they should be billed as would any person earning an average income or with lesser financial dreams and asperations. I'm kind of contradicting myself because I am guilty of sometimes bidding higher to certain customers. Two construction companies that call me don't care how much, just how fast and how clean can I do it. I jack the $$$$ up. Same w/ annoying people or PITA's. Don't want to deal w/ 'em, I jack the $$$$ up. I feel like it is the customer's choice to turn a bid down so I will continue bidding as high to everyone as I feel they will pay.

-Mike-

 

[ORclimber]

Originally posted by John Paul Sanborn
You have it backwards, you give those less able to pay a slight discount. Seniors in an economicly depressed area...

PC discrimination

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

We discriminate all the time, it is not allways a bad thing.

Just that if we look at it this way it is the good and proper thing to do, vs sticking it to the rich guy.