Pioneer 600a

[Goldtree]

Pioneer 600a I just finished restoring

 

[rocketnorton]

curious bout the "a"
got a 600 here, first ive heard of that
looks good tho
one of the best lookin muffs ever on a saw

@pioneerguy600

 

[Goldtree]

I'm not really sure the difference between a 600 and 600a

 

[pioneerguy600]

curious bout the "a"
got a 600 here, first ive heard of that
looks good tho
one of the best lookin muffs ever on a saw

@pioneerguy600

That`s a fine looking resto on a classic. Best I know about them was that the 600 was the first year made model and they originally came with the pioneer recoil starter on them that proved the nylon pawl`s were not strong enough for rough useage like drop starting technique so Pioneer had Fairbanks Morse design a recoil to fit the 600 chassis so that the next production run was designated 600A and they had the new FBM recoils mounted on them . Other than that I have seen no differences between them, Pioneer liked to change the Tillotson carb model numbers sometimes but I think the HL-22 was used on most 600 and 600A models.

 

[Goldtree]

That`s a fine looking resto on a classic. Best I know about them was that the 600 was the first year made model and they originally came with the pioneer recoil starter on them that proved the nylon pawl`s were not strong enough for rough useage like drop starting technique so Pioneer had Fairbanks Morse design a recoil to fit the 600 chassis so that the next production run was designated 600A and they had the new FBM recoils mounted on them . Other than that I have seen no differences between them, Pioneer liked to change the Tillotson carb model numbers sometimes but I think the HL-22 was used on most 600 and 600A models.

Thanks! The only thing is the clutch shoes are worn out. I'm looking for an updated version

 

[rocketnorton]

mine has the pioneer starter

 

[pioneerguy600]

mine has the pioneer starter

Is your saw a 600? or a 600A, recoils have been swapped around on these saws since they were out on the market.

 

[rocketnorton]

600
why i was curious bout the a

 

[rocketnorton]

cant make out the tag here [edit] - in pic
paint n wear is pretty even on it

 

[Goldtree]

cant make out the tag here
paint n wear is pretty even on it
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Can you see if it was made in Peterborough at all?

 

[pioneerguy600]

cant make out the tag here
paint n wear is pretty even on it
View attachment 1047488

The first run 600 had the Pioneer recoil with the green tree, many of those got swapped out for the Fairbanks Morse recoils, our dealer here did many swapouts and they kept the Pioneer recoils when they did a swapout, I diid come across a 600A that had a Pioneer recoil on it but I believe someone had swapped it over before it got to me.

 

[rocketnorton]

the tag is good, pic is not readable
fxd that post

peterborough saw

 

[pioneerguy600]

I have a 600 in a box I have never opened, maybe I will before I kick off.LOL

 

[pioneerguy600]

cant make out the tag here [edit] - in pic
paint n wear is pretty even on it
View attachment 1047488

The rear handle took the most wear n tear on them, that is how I gauge the amount of run time they went through, how much they were handled. Get one with most paint still on the rear handle and you have a low hour saw.

 

[pioneerguy600]

A few of my old beasts,the lightest pale yellow one now resides in Hawaii. I have more that I need to get family pics of,

 

[rocketnorton]