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Froggy

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There are some good saws out there. That some of the guys on the crew work with, but those good ones have lots of hours on them. The good ones are the Stihl 026pro and the Husky 335xp. The rest are Josreds. The ground saws aren't that bad, but there not that good!! The worst are the 335 pros. It's almost like they're afraid of heights and when it comes to power there is none. They climb on tristrand rope which is ok, but it seem as though you're fighting with it all the time. There are some alright saddles there. The majority of them are poor. I can work with the rope and the out dated saddle, but come on you should at least have a good climbing saw. It would make production go alot better. Please give me your opinions on this. To me this seem cheep and not really caring what type of equipment the guys have to work with.Thanks,BB:confused:
 
The simple fact of the matter is that most tree guys don't know there are better options....nor do they care.

Many of us have worked with people that have been doing this work for decades, yet still use the same type of equipment they were using when they started. See Tom's article to learn about Traditional Climbers.

I've worked at places with traditional climbers. What I've found is that deep down inside, they DO want to be progressive. They just don't know that progressiveness is an option. When they see me using a different knot, saw, snaphook/carabiner, often they ask.

So you found a job didya? No more Davey (or was it Bartlett?)

love
nick
 
I wish

This is the same company I've been working for. Wish I could get back with an arborist. People who care about trees seem to be the best to work for. I'll start my search for something in the spring. For now climbing line clearance is where I'm at, but I've found a few fellas who are great to climb with. They make it challenging.Thanks,BB
 
It is what it is... get the job done as cheaply as possible... right down to the gear. Love it or leave it bro!
 
A feind of mine who's shop does saw work for the local Big Orange company says that they have one guy who gets writen up every week because he brings his own gear in to work on.

Probably corporate CYA, document incase he gets hurt "It aint our fault!"
 
Doesn't matter.. if he gets hurt, he'll have been "fired" just before he got hurt anyways.

I've saw it 7 times when I worked for 'em.
 
Regarding gear, for some people it's a hobby. From a business prospective, gear should only be purchased and implemented if can at least pay for itself (safety gear is exempt from this rule, as are a few other things). But say you use the Buckingham Master II saddle and are thinking about getting the glide. That glide is going to run you dern near 300.00.

Now say by using the Glide, you actually do become faster, for whatever reason. Just by wearing it, you save about 6 minutes at the end of the work day, compared to if you were still using the Master II. 6 minutes per day. 30 minutes a week, 2 hours a month, and so on.

If you get 20.00/hr, (a decent rate), it will take you about seven and a half months before that Glide has earned it's keep.

Now, would switching those saddles really save you 6 minutes a day? Who knows. But a smart business-person would be hard pressed to say, "Yeah, get the Glide!"

But, as many of us know, money is not the only thing to take into account. You could throw all sorts of things into the equation....

...The Glide is more comfortable, it hurts me less. I can climb longer each day, allowing me to make more money. I will also be able to climb for many more years if I use the Glide.

...My employee will be happy if I get him this saddle. Happy employees are more productive. His positve attitude may spread to the whole crew, which will save me all sorts of cash

...My old saddle looks shoddy. Customers like to see new equipment. This saddle will let customers see that I am at the forefront of climbing technology. This means more business.

...And so on.

These are the things I think about whenever I go to buy things. Do I need those Kong double handled ascender? the silky zubat? an 11mm climbing line?

I'll probably just get them anyways!!!!
:eek:

love
nick
 
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Rocky J, See man I want to change, but around here it's hard to get work with the tree companies till spring. They usually keep the people they got and hire in the spring. If you might know someone let me know. I'd be glad to come to you to show you my climbing if that's what it takes to get your help. Thanks, BB
 
Froggy... remember the old saying about "Soaring like an Eagle when surrounded by TURKEYS"?

:D
 
Wherever you are trying to get on, show up at 6:30 with your gear, and tell 'em you wanna climb.

That usually works for me. :)
 
Butter Guy up, he's in the Triangle area and needs to slow down on his climbing. He's going to have a number fo big oaks to do crown restoration on this year.
 
wait till spring?

Why would you wait till spring? Even if they are not hiring till spring what's it going to hurt to go out and meet them now? I don't get it with the wait till spring. They may tell you to come back in the spring but what's it hurt to meet them now? If you have time to do it now why wait?
 
I agree with that. Go to those companies you want to work for now and give them your resume. Tell them your interested in showing them what you are capable of.
I am doing line clearance right now as well and I am enjoying it. I have another year and a half and I will be getting the utility specialist certification. I do miss the big removals, but as long as we're caring for trees right.? The pay and benefits cannot be topped by any residential company I know of either. I will be flying solo in about three years. Good luck finding what you are looking for.
 

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