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I recently had a friend who was cleaning out his garage. He gave me two professional looking body harnesses and 3 lanyards. What is this stuff worth? I have no clue and I don't plan on using the stuff. This equipment was originally used for roofing houses. Any input would be much appreciated.
 
Sounds like fall arrest harnesses. Not the work positioning harnesses used by treeclimbers. Pics would help a great deal.
 
I'm with otg, sounds like fall arrest harness. still some are required to wear them in buckets.
-Ralph
 
OTG BOSTON said:
Sounds like fall arrest harnesses. Not the work positioning harnesses used by treeclimbers. Pics would help a great deal.

I think it is a "fall arrest harness".......definitely not for climbing trees. Anyway, here is a picture of the equipment given to me. Anyone know what this stuff is worth? :confused:
 
you don't know it's history so IMO it's garbage, fit to be cut up and thrown in a dumpster. you might get a few bucks at a pawn shop or on e-bay, but not much
 
Its not worth much. they dont even break $100 new. Especilly since the ring in the back is steel instead of fiber. Cant wor around lines woth those ones.
 
BostonBull said:
Its not worth much. they dont even break $100 new. Especilly since the ring in the back is steel instead of fiber. Cant wor around lines woth those ones.
whats the diff. between the steel ring being on the harness or a fiber one when their is a steel clip on the lanyard?
 
jonseredbred said:
whats the diff. between the steel ring being on the harness or a fiber one when their is a steel clip on the lanyard?


When working around electricit especially gloving it, you are withing inches of the conductors. You dont want the risk to be there of that big clunker ring on your back touching a conductor. :buttkick:
 
There should be a tag date on these harnesses. The lanyards are of 2 different types- but both work on the same principle of reducing shock load when fall pressure is applied. Bungee style expands slowly- the other has lanyard folded inside with stitching designed to unravel when force is applied. The double lanyard is for 100% tie off- one is always hooked up during moves. Harness with the buckle attachments( red? one) is the better of the 2, but as previously stated, without knowledge of stress these have been in, I would question their safe use. Discarded harnesses should be cut up so can't be any questions on usefulness. IMO, I would cut them up. :angel:
 
Thanks for all the good info guys. I had no idea that these items could expire. I did see a date marked on one harness, I'll have to check again. Sounds like a big pile of junk to me anyway.
 
Yugh'. EWP harnesses = Uncomfortable and chafing all day long, lanyards don't look to good either, like coydog suggested take it to a pawn shop n see what you get.

Just remember if the pawn shop offers: Something is better then nothing ;)
 
Dont sell them, someone else will use them innapropriatley and get hurt. They where given to you, so it wont hurt to cut them up and use them in another application or just throw them in the bin.
 
Regarding the original intent of the gear:
The red harness appears to only have a dorsal D-ring - this is suitable only for fall arrest.
The yellow harness appears to have a dorsal D-ring as well as shoulder rings - this can be used for vertical Confined Space Entry (CSE). For CSE, the dorsal ring is for fall protection when entering and exiting the space (attached to a tripod or other elevated anchor) and the shoulder rings are for rescue from the space. By using the shoulder rings, the body remains more vertical for easy extrication through the (usually small) hole, as opposed to drooped forward as caused by the dorsal ring.

Neither harness is suitable for tree climbing. They lack the requisite positioning D-rings or the central anchor point at the hips.

Two lanyards are "pig-tail" or "split-tail" lanyards used for 100% tie-off. Usually these are used on a continuous steel wire rope fall protection system that has intermediate anchors. Similar to passing a limb on a tree using ALT, the user can pass an anchor by clipping in beyond the anchor, then unclipping the other. They both have stitched deceleration packs that are designed to limit the maximum arresting force (MAF) on the body to about 900#.

The other lanyard is a single with a deceleration section built into the lanyard webbing itself. This would normally be used for tie-off in a manlift or bucket truck where only one lanyard is needed.

The advice to destroy them is certainly the safest given the unknown history. That said, a detailed visual inspection by a knowledgable person should reveal any critical defects or damage. If it hasn't sustained a fall, the main damage that couldn't be detected by a visual inspection would be some sort of chemical damage (weakening on a microscopic level). Although most workers have a personally-"owned" harness, at my work, our equipment cache is shared by many occasional users. Therefore, the exact history is never known. The gear just receives a detailed visual inspection when it returns and before it goes out the next time. If our gear actually had taken a fall, it would be taken out of service regardless of whether it was observably damaged or not. Of course, unless it's a serious fall that requires rescue and becomes an event reported to OSHA, there's the very real possibility that it'll never be reported to anyone. This is usually due to fear of embarassment and discipline. If it were investigated by OSHA, I'd imagine that they'd seize the harness as evidence in their investigation.

I have an agreement with the equipment manager whereby he gives me the out-of-service lanyards and harnesses so I can salvage the hardware for personal use. Usually they've been contaminated or the soft parts have been cut, frayed or otherwise damaged. I've never done anything with the harness hardware, but I probably have a dozen double-locking steel snaps, which are very nice to have. This is what I would recommend.
 

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