Redneck Wrenching Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

[cuttinscott]

Well you all know Im working on resurrecting a Dolmar KMS4 actually thank to Curt I have a parts saw as well "Thanks Curt". With both of these saws previous owners had done Oiler repairs which meant they had to pull the Fan/Flywheel assembly. DOLMAR as well as Stihl dealers DO HAVE or have Access to the PROPER TOOLING to remove the flywheel PLEASE CALL BEFORE YOU USE A VISE OR HAMMERS AND PRYBARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Parts for these saws are VERY hard to get Please do not try to destroy them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also when using screwdrivers on the fasteners PLEASE use the PROPER size screwdriver for the job so as not to ruin the fastener!!! Now ill get back to work now that I have Vented..........


Scott

 

[bobbyb13]

Well said. Dad learned me the hard way

+1 to you Scott. I wore a hammer tied to my boot for about a hour. Quote from my Dad who was as good as gold to me, " A damn hammer mechanic screws up as much or more than he fixes, get and use the correct tool for the Job, boy". Thanks Pop I sure miss you.

 

[LarryTheCableGuy]

Hey, don't be hatin' on my heat wrench!

Just kidding. I'm all about using the correct tool for the job.

Also, as long as you are going to be using the correct size screwdriver, take some time to dress the ends once in a while and square 'em up. It makes such a difference.

.

 

[computeruser]

Common sense: it ain't so common, or so it seems.

 

[ericjeeper]

Best fix for a straight blade screwdriver..

Get yourself a good "hollow ground gun smithing screwdriver." Or make yourself one. You would not believe the extra bite it will give you.

 

[GASoline71]

The worst part about findin' "cool old saws" is the fact that they have been abused and not maintained properly. Or at all... but I guess that is the challenge of fixin' them up.

I hear ya Scott... I hear ya!

Gary

 

[spacemule]

I resent the term "redneck." We much prefer to be called "white bread honkies." :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Lakeside53]

I can die now...

 

[Cedarkerf]

Hey, don't be hatin' on my heat wrench!

Just kidding. I'm all about using the correct tool for the job.

Also, as long as you are going to be using the correct size screwdriver, take some time to dress the ends once in a while and square 'em up. It makes such a difference.

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You can do that? I thought that was like tearing the tags of a mattress a swat team would come and throw you in jail or somethin. Mech'n on airliners learned just how cool the right good quality tools work.

 

[blis]

Well you all know Im working on resurrecting a Dolmar KMS4 actually thank to Curt I have a parts saw as well "Thanks Curt". With both of these saws previous owners had done Oiler repairs which meant they had to pull the Fan/Flywheel assembly. DOLMAR as well as Stihl dealers DO HAVE or have Access to the PROPER TOOLING to remove the flywheel PLEASE CALL BEFORE YOU USE A VISE OR HAMMERS AND PRYBARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Parts for these saws are VERY hard to get Please do not try to destroy them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also when using screwdrivers on the fasteners PLEASE use the PROPER size screwdriver for the job so as not to ruin the fastener!!! Now ill get back to work now that I have Vented..........


Scott

Hey, whats wrong with removing flywheels with hammers.... I've done it, seen mechanics do it and all those flywheels are still like new...

 

[cuttinscott]

Hey, whats wrong with removing flywheels with hammers.... I've done it, seen mechanics do it and all those flywheels are still like new...

It might have to do with the end of the crankshaft being peened to He11 as well as the Deformation of the Flywheel. The KMS4 does not have mass to its flywheel its all aluminum basically a fan and a armature and this one had been squished in a vise at one time and has cracked the aluminum at the magnet and directly across from it. Most saws and many engines in general require PULLERS to do the job properly without DAMAGE. Also remember their is no source of NEW PARTS for the KMS4 and now I have 2 saws both with damaged flywheels. So I am still on the hunt for non damaged parts for this KMS4

Scott

 

[ropensaddle]

+1 on the right tool If I can't afford it I make it!

 

[Al Smith]

+1 on the right tool If I can't afford it I make it!

Like wise,here. I just trot off to my little machine shop and carve it out on the mill and lathe.

If you are going to thump a flywheel off with a hammer,don't use a big old ball peen.A dead blow,wood or rawhide mallet doesn't destroy the metal .A puller is always the best method.

Now,the screw thing.Why in the world they ever built a saw using slotted screws is beyond my comprehension.Unless I'm rebuilding a saw for historical preservation,I replace the slotted with either socket head or torx drive screws.

 

[cuttinscott]

Like wise,here. I just trot off to my little machine shop and carve it out on the mill and lathe.

If you are going to thump a flywheel off with a hammer,don't use a big old ball peen.A dead blow,wood or rawhide mallet doesn't destroy the metal .A puller is always the best method.

Now,the screw thing.Why in the world they ever built a saw using slotted screws is beyond my comprehension.Unless I'm rebuilding a saw for historical preservation,I replace the slotted with either socket head or torx drive screws.

Both Dolmar and Stihl in that era used slotted screwdriver fasteners and I would like to reuse all original hardware if possible. Of course I could switch to Torx if needed.

Scott

 

[Al Smith]

Both Dolmar and Stihl in that era used slotted screwdriver fasteners and I would like to reuse all original hardware if possible. Of course I could switch to Torx if needed.

Scott

I might chime in the fact that because of slotted screws holding the case halves together the 042/048 was plauged with problems.They had a big brain fart on that one.

I fully understand the reasoning for attempting exact duplication on a fully restored anything.I've even been so anal as to making exact duplications for fasteners on John Deere tractors.