removalvision

[TheKid]

this has probably been covered here, but does anyone else "suffer" from "removalvision"? as i walk my dog through the parks here and admire the trees i can't help but look at them through the eyes of a removal climber. and since they're in a park with no targets beneath, i imagine some. a house here, patio there, pagoda here, greenhouse there...

 

[mckeetree]

this has probably been covered here, but does anyone else "suffer" from "removalvision"? as i walk my dog through the parks here and admire the trees i can't help but look at them through the eyes of a removal climber. and since they're in a park with no targets beneath, i imagine some. a house here, patio there, pagoda here, greenhouse there...

No, I can't say that I have. I might walk through the park and imagine myself having a lifetime tree health care contract on every tree there.

 

[clearance]

I know what you mean.

 

[treeman82]

For me it depends on what I am looking at. Really nice, big trees I think about pruning. If I'm near the lake, I think about how nice of a view I can get from up high in the crown. Certain other trees I think about how nice it would be to have the property for an IPM account... then there are those crappy ones which I think about removals.

 

[techdave]

Yeah i do...

Only since I mostly fell 'em, and/or mill em, I look at them from thsoe perspectives.

I am a coach's kid and even if I walk by a pickup ball game I tend to look at it like a coach.

My wife is a drywall finisher and always checks out the walls and lids in other folks houses.

Since I fix equipment in my main job I go around hearing all he clones with poor running equipment thinking crap, fix that, or stop lugging that saw pinche gue!

 

[JeffL]

Tell you what, I'm appreciative that I see the forest for the trees now. If you get what I'm saying.

 

[Nailsbeats]

I have a bad case of it. As I drive around all I do is picture how to prune or take down every tree. We have this Dutch Elm disease going on around my area and I want to do is kill all Elm trees with any symtoms. I also have Hard Maples that are dying in the tops, they gotta go too. It seems I can find a reason to take down almost every tree and plant a new one. I try my best to keep it under control because most people are tree huggers.

 

[suprherosndwch]

Yea, and I need to quit before it kills me. I am always looking at the dead branches in the oak trees, or a dead top in a conifer as I'm driving around thinking about how I would get them down instead of thinking about the road. It will get me sooner or later.

 

[Mikecutstrees]

yeah me too, I'm always thinking about how an oak needs to be pruned. Or how I could get out on that limb there, and cut there, then rig that limb off that crotch up there etc etc. Drives me a little nuts but I think it drives my wife more nuts. God forbid I see a huge tree next to the road, I find myself just about driving to it. It's bad.... Glad I'm not the only one.....

 

[MS TreeMonkey]

Drives me a little nuts but I think it drives my wife more nuts.

I second that!!! My wife hates it b/c while i'm driving sometimes, i'll be running off the road looking at trees dreaming about how and how long it would take me to take that one down! "Where would i rig that limb?", or "how could i swing that one to keep it from hitting the tree next to it?" Last night i actually had a dream about removing a freaking hackberry - actually it was more of a nightmare!!! i hate those things!!!

 

[reachtreeservi]

I met someone last week who asked me if I liked my job. I told him I must like it. He asked " What do you mean?"

I said " Well, I cut and climb trees all day, go home every night and watch videos of people cutting and climbing trees
and then lie down and dream about cutting and climbing trees."

He laughed and asked what do I like to do in my spare time?
I told him I spent alot of time on AS talking and reading about cutting and climbing trees.

I guess you could say I've got it bad. My name is John, and I suffer from removalvision

 

[Justice]

LOL... good post...lol
I do the same thing. How should that have been done, how would I do that. I am a muni arborist so I have it real bad when I drive through towns and see other town work being done.
Watch the video's, AS, 5 -6 classes a year, and love it. Not for the money either, because as we all know none of us really gets paid enough "money".
I have "arborvision" and I don't need an intervention....lol

 

[Works4me]

Trees

this has probably been covered here, but does anyone else "suffer" from "removalvision"? as i walk my dog through the parks here and admire the trees i can't help but look at them through the eyes of a removal climber. and since they're in a park with no targets beneath, i imagine some. a house here, patio there, pagoda here, greenhouse there...

I look for trees that I can't identify when I'm driving. I like to look at a tree and know what it is.

:greenchainsaw:

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I look for trees that I can't identify when I'm driving. I like to look at a tree and know what it is.

My wife hates my windshield ID moments,"is that..no.. hey slow down..." We've been together over three years now, so I've managed to stop pointing out properties I've worked.

I've not asked her to stop kvetching about here workday though. Her's is the "better" job; pay, benies, union security w/seniority...she hates it with a passion though.

No, I can't say that I have. I might walk through the park and imagine myself having a lifetime tree health care contract on every tree there.

This is the difference between the "young" climber who is thrilled with the challenge of his trade, and the professional who wants to build a way to do what he does for many years.

It is an old saw, but removals are a one trick pony. You can realistically trim on a 3-4 year cycle.

Once again my simple-math micro-company client portfolio'

300 clients
$1000 average gross per visit
3 year cycle
$100k per annum

If you are on a 200 workday budget, that leaves you 100 worry free days to do bid work

"Where would i rig that limb?", or "how could i swing that one to keep it from hitting the tree next to it?" Last night i actually had a dream about removing a freaking hackberry - actually it was more of a nightmare!!! i hate those things!!!

I usually have those dreams the night before a big technical removal. Even if I've never seen the tree, my mind gears up. I used to think it was stupid, but I've come to believe that it's my mind getting ready to think in ways don't on a regular basis.

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There have been times when Diane's asked me what I'm thinking about, "Hmm...oh...I'm doing a time study to bid on the parkinglot trees"

Then she will

Unless they are involved directly in the business, it is hard for them to understand that we do not turn it off when we "punch out", and that for business owners, we really never punch out. I know many micro company owners who's wives still think of the tree company as "his job"... but then I digress into another topic... 'magine that

 

[chucknduck]

Yes, I suffer from the symptoms. When I drive around town, or go fishing I look at trees and think how much would I charge to remove them. Sometimes its kind of annoying, instead of fishing under the trees peacefully, i am looking up at them decided what they're worth. lol

 

[hammerlogging]

Every tree I look at I look at the different holes I could drop it in.

 

[bendtrees]

Although I really enjoy this aspect of the job (logistics, technique of removal, etc). I struggle with feelings that most of our work is destruction based rather than creation based. I fear that being good at taking things apart keeps me from getting better at creating.

 

[Bermie]

This thing must be a virus...it has different forms
Removalvision, Pruneitis, Riggamortis...
I look around with an eye to 'what will happen to that tree in the next hurricane', have actually been told off for poor driving by a friend who got stuck behind me one day...

 

[limbwalker54]

Justification and Ramification

WoW! I am not alone! I can't wait to tell my wife that all the comments on trees I make while driving around or walking through the park are justified! She'll be thrilled!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

WoW! I am not alone! I can't wait to tell my wife that all the comments on trees I make while driving around or walking through the park are justified! She'll be thrilled!

You can assure here that these manifestations of arboribund climbus are not terminal. Chronic and incurable, without removal of the vocation, but the do moderate with time. The problem there, is that, as time goes on other manifestations arise.

If you are not in the advanced stages yet, some day you will find yourself digging in the soil at the base of a tree for no obvious reason besides a feeling that there may be a girdling root.

You will stop and look at leaves to find the what invertebrates are feeding there, find an urge to collect odd fungal bodies in the root zone...