running a splitter off a tractor

[ROLLACOSTA]

Hi i've been advised against buying a splitter that runs off of my tractor hydraulics,by companys that sell splitters,even though my tractor is a new 30hp ck 30 kioti compact.

The reasons they give me are poor performance,hydraulics might over heat etc etc

I have been advised to buy a pto driven splitter,or at least a splitter that has a pump that connects to the tractors pto..

Do you guys agree with the splitter salesmen,can anyone here help thanks..

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

The total hydraulic flow of my tractor is 12.7 GPM here is the full spec list of my tractor. www.kiotitractor.com/tractor_ck30.asp sorry you'll have to click specifacation to open

The splitter I want is only a little 13ton model made by Thor or Woodline,with a 4.5 inch ram.

 

[B-Edwards]

Rolla, i agree with them on using a pto pump because of the reasons they told you. I ran a log splitter off a 50 HP 1976 model 5000 ford tractor it didnt have the power i needed ,although it did work . I would have to help it along by tapping the wedge with a sledge hammer, ( the logs i was splitting were 7 and a half feet long though). I saw this splitter not long ago , new owner has put a pump and small engine on it and you no longer need the sledge hammer. So to make a long answer short, do as they said.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Thanks for the reply,I think i'll get a splitter with an independant pump..

 

[Buzzlightyear]

Lee try both, get them to bring them out to demo. No point in spending the extra wedge on a seperate pto pump if you don't have to

 

[hautions11]

Run Off Hydraulics

I think I've posted this pic before, but here is my case tractor set-up running off hydraulics. 20 horse twin Onan. Works great. 20 ton one direction and 16 ton the other. Splits bith ways. For home use this is great!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/Hautions11/P1014089.jpg

 

[laynes69]

I was considering this option also. My Super 55 Diesel is only a 5 gpm system, so there is no way it would work. A pto pump which mounts on the pto is around 400.00 I decided to get my engine fixed on my splitter instead of converting it. This way I am independent with my splitter. If my tractor goes down, I'll pull the splitter and suburban in the woods. That much flow seems like it would do the job, and save some money. I dont see the hydraulics overheating on a tractor. But my splitter has maybe a 6 or 8 horse briggs from before 1963, old pump and cylinder, and I can split 20" hard maple with ease. Consider all your options.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Laynes69 I don't mean over heat the tractor engine ,rather over heat the tractor hydraulics..

Well thats what the salemen told me..

 

[SmokinDodge]

I would like to see the crew of people you have to have feeding a log splitter fast enough to overheat hyd fluid. My fathers splitter has a 6" bore and 28" stroke and we run it on his 4020 John Deere's hydraulics.

How much wood are you going to be splitting each year? If it is only 1-4 cords a year your tractor hyd would work fine. That is all Dad does. Most of the easy stuff he splits by hand.

 

[Leebo]

I run a 30 year old Danuser splitter (3-point, hydraulic) off a 45 year old Ford 801. I've run it 2-3 hours at a time and never have overheated the pump, fluid or anything else. Sounds like the salesman might be trying to sell you the more expensive unit.

 

[laynes69]

I said overheat the hydraulics, I said nothing about the engine. If you have enough pressure and flow, you would be fine with your factory hydraulics.
Also if you have the specs to do it, it will be much cheaper.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

I said overheat the hydraulics, I said nothing about the engine. If you have enough pressure and flow, you would be fine with your factory hydraulics.
Also if you have the specs to do it, it will be much cheaper.

Sorry mate my wrong..

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

I'll be splitting wood for around 5 hours a week for those that wanted to know..

 

[olyman]

before i got the hydraulics worked out right on my splitter--i ran it off a few diff tractors--worked just fine--but the cyl is 6"
dia-----most of the newer tractors have high pressure hydraulics---so should work even on smaller dia cyls---

 

[olyman]

hautions11--what for a pump do you have hooked up on that case garden tractor--and how--more pics for the curious minded------!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

So what are we saying guys ,go with a model that runs off of my tractor hydraulics?? OR spend the extra on an splitter with an independant pump?

 

[olyman]

got a tractor that has high pressure hyds---if so--may work--also--most have tractor splitters hooked to the three point--then in the field--they use the tractor--with loader--to move logs around--lots of variables--

 

[olyman]

hautions11--again--how you running the splitter of the case garden tractor????--pics please--

 

[Blake22]

I run my splitter that I built off the hydraulics on my 35hp New Holland tractor. I run the tractor just above idle speed for hours and hours. Works great.

 

[laynes69]

If you going to keep this tractor, and dont plan on gettin rid of it, I would save some money and get one without the pto pump. Its up to you, its your money. Obviously your tractor hydraulics should handle it.