saw dawgs/dogs/spikes

[sloth9669]

I use my saws for bucking up logs 90% of the time...is there any real advantage to put bigger dawgs on or a out side set of dawgs onto the saw just for bucking ??? any thoughts ??

 

[NWCS]

the main advantages are increased leverage and grip in thick barked trees. primarily a west coast thing. some saws with a west coast version have higher output oil pumps also, prime examples being the full wrap west coast Stihl 044 and 046, along with their MS model counterparts. for the right application aftermarket large dogs can be a good upgrade.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=31040&highlight=dogs

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Oh, there's a couple of posts towards the end of this thread-

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=30994&page=2&highlight=bars

A search would yeild even more.....

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Got Ash?


Big dogs will be manditory with Ash. Their bark is thicker and flakier than Mrs.Smiths pie crust.

 

[sloth9669]

did a search

i did a search for the topic...still is large dawgs and or a second set of dawgs serve any good purpous with out thick bark...but rather just for bucking logs...will it make my day any better ??

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

No, they just eat up valuable bar length.
If you are working on steep slopes, with a huge saw, a big dawg can make it easier to spike the saw in, and pivot it for the horizontal cuts made in felling. For bucking they are useless.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Got Ash?


Big dogs will be manditory with Ash. Their bark is thicker and flakier than Mrs.Smiths pie crust.

What kind of Ash do you have that has bark that makes sawing hard? I've cut a lot of Ash in my day and never once had an issue with the bark.

 

[John Ellison]

If you are bucking a log that is longer than your bar it is a lot easier to cut the far side if you have dogs.Without them you will use a lot of energy when you could be resting.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Just the opposite is true, big dawgs hold the saw body up and away from you when cutting the far side.
If the bark is so thick, the saw body is sliding around on the log, then you might want longer dawgs, if not forget about it.

 

[John Ellison]

Sorry, I thought we were talking about dogs vs no dogs.

 

[RaisedByWolves]

What kind of Ash do you have that has bark that makes sawing hard? I've cut a lot of Ash in my day and never once had an issue with the bark.

Its.....Ummm....Ash.


Big deep loose bark. Breaks free when trying to roll a round to the splitter and goes flying over your head.


Ill post a pic of some tomorrow.

 

[turnkey4099]

Its.....Ummm....Ash.


Big deep loose bark. Breaks free when trying to roll a round to the splitter and goes flying over your head.


Ill post a pic of some tomorrow.

Yep, I have only lucked into two ash trees (one of my own) and both had that thick, loose bark. Didn't really have a problem cutting them with standard dogs though. I have no idea what 'type' of ash they were.

Harry K

 

[GASoline71]

Duck!!! :biggrinbounce2: opcorn: opcorn: opcorn:

Gary

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Heres some pics of my big fat Ash. Note the penny and sneaker in pics for size reference.


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So, mabye its only when your ash gets real big that the surface becomes all loose and puckery and is hard to get ahold of. Mabye you havent incountered someone with a really large Ash?

I prefer to stay away from people wanting me to touch their large Ash for this very reason. Now a small Ash with a nice tight feel to it, Ill handle one of these all day long.


Yes, I really love a nice tight Ash.

 

[manual]

Dang Pics won't open.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Opened for me.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

What are those little green things growing out of the bark? They look like Venus Fly Traps.
Do you have your saws sharpened so they need a lot of pushing to make them cut? That bark isn't that deeply furrowed that it would be a problem. Other that the carnivorous plants growing out of the cracks, it looks just like our Ash trees.
Maybe your just being a big Ash hole.

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Hey Mike, is there a lake near where you live?