sc 602

[ropensaddle]

Any of you running this grinder have any feedback? I am about
to buy one for my business are they good in the maintenance?
How are they at liking diesel and how long does it take to turn
say 300, 20 inch stumps to dust?

 

[D Mc]

Can't help you on the 602 specifically. But as a stump grinding time reference, our 35 Hp grinder takes out a 20" stump, 8" below grade in about 10 minutes. So 300 stumps at that speed, not counting reset up time (depending how far they are arranged) should take around 50 hrs. If you are talking about a 60 Hp unit, should be faster.

Not much help, was it?

D and S Mc

 

[ropensaddle]

Can't help you on the 602 specifically. But as a stump grinding time reference, our 35 Hp grinder takes out a 20" stump, 8" below grade in about 10 minutes. So 300 stumps at that speed, not counting reset up time (depending how far they are arranged) should take around 50 hrs. If you are talking about a 60 Hp unit, should be faster.

Not much help, was it?

D and S Mc

No, but you tried I have run a 35 horse, and 25 and 50 and 72
but not a 60 anything under 50 is too slow for me! I need to get them
done and get back to tree work! I had a 252 and sold it, it was ok,
I seem to get several bids a year on 100 plus stumps and want
to knock them out quick! I have got a job now with over 400 and
could not see daylight with a small machine. It is supposed to sweep
70 inches so should make quick work out of most of our stumps.
Thanks for trying to help,if all my stumps were 20" a 35 might
cut the mustard. I ground one stump 78" with my 252 it took way
too long to me!

 

[John464]

had one. got rid of it. not because it wasnt a great machine. Ive done away with tow behinds. Those 300 stumps with a 60hp self propelled will cut your time by a big margin. Tow behinds are old technology. There are self propelled grinders with 100hp nowadays. If quickness is your aim, backing a truck with grinder up to 300 stumps isnt the game.

 

[ropensaddle]

had one. got rid of it. not because it wasnt a great machine. Ive done away with tow behinds. Those 300 stumps with a 60hp self propelled will cut your time by a big margin. Tow behinds are old technology. There are self propelled grinders with 100hp nowadays. If quickness is your aim, backing a truck with grinder up to 300 stumps isnt the game.

Yeah, I was afraid you were going to say that but those tracks
will sure set your wallet back. Does it grind fast the one you got rid of?

 

[John464]

Yeah, I was afraid you were going to say that but those tracks
will sure set your wallet back. Does it grind fast the one you got rid of?

ya, has a big sweep too. The grinder itself is great. You dont need a tracked machine. The Carlton SP7015, which is wheeled, would be a better 60hp for the jobs you describe. of course its more expensive, but look where it can go and how much quicker it would be, no jacking a truck all around. Ive seen them go used for not much more than what a self SC603 goes for. This difference in cost you will make over time.

 

[oldirty]

get a wheeled self propelled grinder man. we run a carlton4400 that has duallies on the front of the machine. you can take the outside 2 wheels off in you need to squeeze it in somewhere. a nice machine to run. escpecially if you are the only one running it. nothing worse than going to get into a stump and discover that the last operator was too lazy to replace the teeth he lost........another story for another day.

 

[treeman82]

About 2 years ago I ran a 60 HP tow behind (Rayco, not Vermeer) It seemed as though I spent more time setting up than I did actually grinding, and the mess that I left behind from the truck was nothing to laugh at either. Now I run a 60 HP self propelled (when I need to) and that thing is twice as fast (if not faster) than the tow behind, with less mess in the end. Last summer I took out a 6' black oak stump with it in MAYBE an hour. Not exactly sure, because I spent 3 hrs on site between fixing a flat, playing with the dog, and having lunch / cake with the customer and her friends. Worst job I ever did with that machine was about 25 stumps, each ranging from 2' diameter, to over 3' diameter... some maple, some locust, and some catalpa... first time running it, and I got done in about 3 hrs. Doing that job with a tow behind would have been near impossible, or would have taken 2 guys at LEAST 6 hrs if there was no worrying about septic fields, and other obstacles.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

How about one of those older 65 hp./wisconsin on 1560 model. Remove the engine put a ford v-8 w/ radiator . Old clutch assembly from chunk & duck 5 gang belt & let the chips fly. 275-300 H.P.. Interesting if not crazy concept. Might need to beef it up a little. I know a fella $ 1500 for his(engine smokes) I might just try this as I've got a Ford industrial V-8 out in the shop. I love a good project.

 

[ropensaddle]

ya, has a big sweep too. The grinder itself is great. You dont need a tracked machine. The Carlton SP7015, which is wheeled, would be a better 60hp for the jobs you describe. of course its more expensive, but look where it can go and how much quicker it would be, no jacking a truck all around. Ive seen them go used for not much more than what a self SC603 goes for. This difference in cost you will make over time.

Would it really be quicker with stumps scattered out on a golf course? Time loading and unloading would have to be considered,
I love the machines but so do they!

 

[John464]

Would it really be quicker with stumps scattered out on a golf course? Time loading and unloading would have to be considered,
I love the machines but so do they!

really depends on how far part. the tow behind may be quicker if they are spread real far apart. also depends if these stumps can be knocked out in one swipe or if you have to get back in the truck to setup for another bite. we have contracts on a few golf courses and there are areas we can take a stump machine, skid loader, and spider, but can not take a truck. not even a pickup or a one ton. trucks arent allowed beyond designated areas..not sure how your contract reads.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

The one I'm referring to is a large , old tow-behind. Cutter wheel is about 34 in. diameter w/ chain & belt drive combo. V-8 this !!!

 

[ropensaddle]

The one I'm referring to is a large , old tow-behind. Cutter wheel is about 34 in. diameter w/ chain & belt drive combo. V-8 this !!!

Yeah,I would try that if I had more time. I need one Monday or Tuesday
and a warrantee looks good at this point!

 

[ropensaddle]

really depends on how far part. the tow behind may be quicker if they are spread real far apart. also depends if these stumps can be knocked out in one swipe or if you have to get back in the truck to setup for another bite. we have contracts on a few golf courses and there are areas we can take a stump machine, skid loader, and spider, but can not take a truck. not even a pickup or a one ton. trucks arent allowed beyond designated areas..not sure how your contract reads.

They have their own landscape crew that is going to repair
any problems, and we will have to put off some of the 400
until things dry up a bit. I have a great deal on the machine
but called the other guy's to see there availability! It appears
it will be close to ten grand more and I am doing 5 courses
so lot of move time! I also have had around ten stumps in
the last four years, that I could not get to with this unit!
I have access to a rental for those type jobs and if they won't
pay that cost, I really don't need the job.

 

[John464]

ok 5 different courses. that is a lot of moving. Sounds like a tow behind would well in your situation. You will be happy with the 602.

 

[ropensaddle]

I want to thank all for the advise,I will take it all in and
decide before Monday but my dealer seemed to do all
he could to help me and I do think that counts, and he is local!
It is a used machine 30 hours on it but comes with a new warranty!
Saved me a couple thousand or so for 30 hours and he will throw in a set
of new teeth. I know they are making money off me, but we all
need to prosper and he seems to shoot straight!

 

[mckeetree]

How about one of those older 65 hp./wisconsin on 1560 model. Remove the engine put a ford v-8 w/ radiator . Old clutch assembly from chunk & duck 5 gang belt & let the chips fly. 275-300 H.P.. Interesting if not crazy concept. Might need to beef it up a little. I know a fella $ 1500 for his(engine smokes) I might just try this as I've got a Ford industrial V-8 out in the shop. I love a good project.

Before I showed up to the job with some pieced together looking deal like that I would hire a bunch of beavers to just chew the stump out. You would look more professional that way. One local guy here has "built" a convoluted assortment of equipment that he uses. One of his winch trucks looks like it has part of an old car incorporated into the bed of it some way. One lady here said they look like something from the move deliverance.

 

[ropensaddle]

Before I showed up to the job with some pieced together looking deal like that I would hire a bunch of beavers to just chew the stump out. You would look more professional that way. One local guy here has "built" a convoluted assortment of equipment that he uses. One of his winch trucks looks like it has part of an old car incorporated into the bed of it some way. One lady here said they look like something from the move deliverance.

That would depend on their fabricating experience, chip is
pretty good at that from what I have seen and has less
overhead. I know what you are speaking of though.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

Our local area now has 47 tree butchers listed in the yellow pages, so I simply try to keep costs down. The local paper & pennysaver has another 17 pick-up truck choppers listed. Uninsured, inexperienced & low-balling all of us "legal operators ". We try to be competetive ! All the beavers are out working !