I have a like new Shindiawa 488 saw for sale. It outcuts the Stihl pro 260. It is the same size saw. I have used it for less than 2 hrs. The thing rips in the wood. I have to many saws and need to put some money back in my pocket from the MS460 I just bought. I want $300 plus Shipping for it. It comes with a 18" pro oregon bar. This saw is a great. Anyone who has used Shindiawa saws knows there build quality. I own all Stihls but can honestly say this saw is built better than any of the others I own. If I didn't need the Bling-Bling I would not be selling it!