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I have to add this. Climbers are as humble as you let them be. If you push their buttons most will tell you their mind. You can always count on most of them to be direct and to the point. If you can't handle that you better speak up. Most of us don't mean to be rude, but have learned not to beat around the bush. Comes natural in this profession. Most climbers you'll find to be a little crazy. To me their the best group of people you could hang with. The stories will be told. Most true; some a little streached, but all in all you can't beat us with a stick. Climb hard and hit the ground running, but always be on your feet looking for new and better ways to master this trade we do for a living. I love it don't you? OH YA!!!!!!!!!!! Peace, BB:blob6: