Speed lines, SRT vs DbRT, and Top Down or Bottoms Up?

[Lumberjack]

In order to keep the tread straight I started this one. Here is the speed line idea

Carl

 

[MasterBlaster]

Carl that doesn't asplain much.



If you would save your image as a JPEG instead of a BMP it would download much easier. Ain't nothing to it, you do it in paint.

 

[treehugger01]

I could see how slacking the speed line a whole lot close to the tree to affort you to attach other limpbs .
Tighten
Then cut limb etc. over and over. Slack the line the tighten. Ive done this before with the big stick ****.
Using a big stick boom gave me the elevation on the ground and the power to tighten up alot. It was fun even possible to rig out the chunks somewhat fast with tufflex slings

 

[Lumberjack]

I will try to asplain. Instead of tieing the limb directly to the speedline, you tie it to the yellow rope. That way you can go up and down without having to move you speedline (red rope). That way you could speedline from 20-40 foot away from the speedline. A little thought could make it so the climber or a groundy could raise the limb up on the lower limbs.


Carl

 

[MasterBlaster]

From what I see, you have to climb the tree twice.

I don't too much cotton to that.

Start from the bottom, work your way up, come down.

One climb.

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
From what I see, you have to climb the tree twice.

I don't too much cotton to that.

Start from the bottom, work your way up, come down.

One climb.

Not if you go top down. unless you had to drop chunks out of the spar, then you would have to. On trees like that where you could drop larger sticks like say 15-20 foot you could run they speed line down to where you need to cut, cut using red rope to pull, and retie the red to the new top of the tree.


Carl

 

[treehugger01]

thats a pretty neat Idea
The speedline aint a speedline at all but rather a trolean traverse or a substutite for a crane. i like that but how do you get he pully that ride on the speedline back to ya huh?

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by treehugger01
thats a pretty neat Idea
The speedline aint a speedline at all but rather a trolean traverse or a substutite for a crane. i like that but how do you get he pully that ride on the speedline back to ya huh?

Pull it back with the yellow rope, depending on the angle of the red rope from horizonal. Or you could have a seprate line along the red to act as the tagline. The possiblilities are endless, but it must be practical.

Carl

 

[MasterBlaster]

I have never used a pulley when I SL.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I also don't control the descent. If I ever have to, I will.

I just cuts 'em, and lets 'em slide!

 

[Lumberjack]

I would use a pulley to decrease friction on heavy loads, or long runs.

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Carl

 

[MasterBlaster]

Most speedline loads aren't considered heavy loads.

 

[Lumberjack]

I think that I would use a tag line to control the speed. But even with the steel biner, the load would go super fast, but the biner would get nice and hot, I figure that could mess up the rope.


Carl

 

[treehugger01]

Heat is bad indeed.
I have a friend cleans windows in Atlanta. He rapells on 800 foot of(i forget manufacture) rock climbing rope takes a elevator up and moves over one window pane at a time. He told me he smoked a rope so fast that when the rope cooled down.He snapped the rope in half with his hands.. Scarry!

 

[MasterBlaster]

The heat build-up would be only in the ******, not the rope. At any given point only a 1/4" part of the rope would be in contact with the heated biner for only a split-second. Not enough time to do any damage to the rope.

But of course, the ******/snap would have to be downgraded to a non lifeline role. Say, a speedline?

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by TreeCo
Hey Rocky,

Maybe Carl will use a parachute to slow down the load!!

It doesn't much matter. I don't he's not listening. He's got it all figgered out already.

Dan

What? This hole thing was just an idea for speedlining top down.

What didn't I listen to. Was it the dog pissing? That was a smiley that I found and posted for humor.

I think that you are wrong to say that I already have it figured out, I have never implied that.


Carl

 

[treehugger01]

I believe a rapelling rack would generate enuff heat to transfer it into the rope. Why would he lie? I told dude I could climb his rope faster than he could ride his silly elevator back up the 80 floors. With chainsaw. I guess he got offened and up and lied about breaking the rope with his hands. ive smoked alot of rope at the crotch I'm sure we all have never come close to being able to break one thou

 

[rahtreelimbs]

The beanstalk has captured the cloud!!!

 

[Lumberjack]

Oh and it was different than the standard speedline. The regular speed line is easy/ fine, this is something else a trolean traverse as TH said.

Carl

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Trolean traverse, mass damping.

Climbing with Mr. Webster must be difficult!!!