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:( Does anyone know of any archive or research website that could show me how many trees are taken down weekly, monthly, annually, etc. statewide, nationwide or whatever? This is something I've always wanted to know.
 
I dont know the only info that I have is there are more trees in the US today than there were 50 to 60 years ago. I thought that was interesting.
Mike
 
Originally posted by Climbing mike
I dont know the only info that I have is there are more trees in the US today than there were 50 to 60 years ago. I thought that was interesting.
Mike
This statistic is the favorite of the forest products industry. they use 1940 as a benchmark because that was the end of the Dust Bowl era, when people finally figured out that if they wanted to have soil, they needed to have trees.:eek:

How many trees are cut down every day? How and why would anyone want to know that?:confused:
 
I don't see how an accurate figure can be compiled. There are so many small tree companies that nobody has obtained info from and some do many removals some few. Then consider that millions of homeowners are cutting trees , and forest thinning operations and construction ..... Some days I've felled dozens of trees some weeks none at all.
 
<<<How many trees are cut down every day? How and why would anyone want to know that?<<<

Well, I think It's a very common question any person especially those who works with trees ought to know. I once read an article about one of the local landfill brings in about 140 tons of tree waste per day and I got to thinking just how many trees that adds up to. I also wonder if we are putting in as many trees in the ground every day as we'll cutting down. Maybe ISA will do a story about it someday.:)
 
Last week I was at the National Urban Forestry Conference. A speaker was talking about vegetation loss in terms of number of trees. I asked if anyone ever compiled statistics in a more meaningful term like diameter inches, weight or volume. Otherwise, all of the three inch buckthorn that we cut down don't get any bigger scale compared to the 16" elm that comes down on Monday.

That useless statement about there being more trees now than any time in history is ludicrous. Again, they count one inch whips in the nursery as a unit, the same as counting the General Sherman as one unit. How can thirty year factory trees even be counted as the same as old growth? There are much better ways to count trees. How about species diversity? Along with trees in the woods, we also need to have scrub, grasses and micro organisms. Just like the ocean, don't worry as much about the whales, save the plankton and blue green algae.

Tom
 
I find this statement that we have more trees now than fifty or sixty years almost laughable.

The majestic hardwood timber that graced this land is almost a thing of the past. It has been replaced with fast growing softwoods (evergreens) on managed timber stands and tree plantations. They say we have more trees but politely forget to say what type.

Quanity of trees definately abounds, but the quality of the wood leaves something to be desired. Finding a straight, knot free piece of wood is a rare find, if not almost impossible, these days.

If we have so many trees around why are there so many simulalted wood products on the market???
 
Originally posted by Ax-man
If we have so many trees around why are there so many simulalted wood products on the market???

It takes a minimum of 20yrs to get a loblolly saw log. I can simulate a wood product right now. ;)

That and Americans really seem to like cheap plastic crap especially if it is from China. :p
 
<<I think it would be virtually impossible to track such information. Educated guesses based on satellite photos of vegetative coverage would be the closest you will get.>>

I know some municipalities has softwares to keep track of the amount of trees they have, maintenance program and how many are taken down into their database but with today's technologies, I really believe nationally and statewide, we can keep track of what we have and what goes out but it just may be an enormous task and expensive for any organization to worry about such an issue for now.
 
Trees. Ahhh

Deforestation statistics will jar you a bit. Especially if you have any interest in atmospheric science.

Cheap plastic products from China??? Hey, that'd be WalMart. If the merger that hasn't happened yet (energy industry with forest products) ever does, we're done for. On our way now. I would think that ethanol, methanol and pine pitch would interest Exxon but they don't think in those terms - unless it's to suppress it.

Our landfill burns brush and even at that, it it were to heat water into steam it wouldn't be such a waste. Whatever happened to pelletized wood stoves? What became of the turpentine industry? What happened to democracy? Where's the safe beef? How come chicken breasts are yellow and blue? Why has the particulate ceiling in flying gone from 5,600 feet to 26,000 feet? Whatever happened to A&W Drive-ins? I loaded six pairs of white sox into my washin' machine...why did five and 1/2 pairs come out?
 
how many?

Does this include the trees taken out by storms (like Isabel), forestfires (in the millions of acres) and the trees trees taken down to make the paper you are writing the numbers on? At best an estimate could be made but that's all. I agree with Tom, biomass is important and counting seedlings as trees is not the way to go. In tree time a seedling takes many years to equal the biomass of the large trees we remove. I plant a lot of trees but in my life time the trees will not equal the size of some of the trees I have taken down. Trees take time to grow.
 
Ok guys, you made your point, guess this is a hopeless issue, so much for curiosity. :cry:
 
It's not hopeless, just a little difficult. There are several sites around the Twin Cities that collect tree material. Some is tub ground for mulch. Other is chipped and trucked to St. Paul for burning. They make steam for heat and electricity.

There are studies that show that we're loosing treee cover around cities. I think most of that can be attributed to urban sprawl. Last week I was wondering if we were to consider the areas that are already built up in the core cities and inner suburbs. was the urban forest gaining, holding or lossing bio mass? Since there is little clearing going on in the inner urban area, the trees are getting bigger every year. It seems like there must be more biomass replaced in normal growth than lost through storms, disease, pruning etc.

Tom
 
Originally posted by Tom Dunlap
That useless statement about there being more trees now than any time in history is ludicrous.
Tom

There are lies, dam lies and statistics...
Disreali, Benjamin-Prime Minister for Queen Victoria
 
i know this was a long time ago, just came across it while searching.

here is an interesting article with lots of numbers:
http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0313-forests.html



Another question:
ever notice how many trees are dead around you...

i see row after row of dead young landscape trees, not to mention the beetle situation in our Forests...
just something to ponder.
 
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