Stihl 011 AV

[Cut4fun]

Well awhile back I posted about my buddy finding a chainsaw case at the landfill he works and found it to contain a saw too, he thought it was a little stihl 020, wasn't sure though. Well it wasnt.
Well today i got it and it is a nice little 011AV. The price is right for me, so i guess I got another project saw. Has spark, good compression. Looks like some carb issues in my opinion right now.
So are these decent little saws? Neat how it has the rear handle on such a small saw too.

 

[Lakeside53]

They run pretty well ,BUT the reed block assy on that particular version (orange body) is obsolete, not available, screws up often, and you can't fit the later version... without machining the case.

Having said that... flipping the reed upside down, and careful application of HFP on all gaskets can solve the problems (the reed block distorts and leaks).

 

[Cut4fun]

Thanks for the clues Lake. I know nothing about the saw or the makings of it.
Dang thing wasnt used to much from the looks of things. Might end up a parts saw if it dont work out. I did notice high side adjuster missing so far on the carb.

 

[chowdozer]

Well awhile back I posted about my buddy finding a chainsaw case at the landfill he works and found it to contain a saw too, he thought it was a little stihl 020, wasn't sure though. Well it wasnt.
Well today i got it and it is a nice little 011AV. The price is right for me, so i guess I got another project saw. Has spark, good compression. Looks like some carb issues in my opinion right now.
So are these decent little saws? Neat how it has the rear handle on such a small saw too.

I have one just like yours. Got it 11 years ago from the older fella I bought my house from and it was well used then. It was my only saw until about 4 years ago. I averaged about 4 cords a year with that saw for 7 years and never had a problem with it. I still have not done anything to it but gas, oil and a plug once in awhile.

I don't have any complaints and I hope your's treats you well.

 

[sedanman]

The other thing that happens to those is the "s" style clutch breaks apart and it saounds like the saw has a dead cat it when all it needs is a later style clutch.

 

[retoocs555]

Pretty good little saws. Especially for the price.

They were common so used parts shouldn't be too hard to find if you need any.

 

[Cut4fun]

Scott J, did you get those Pioneer/Partner work shop service manuals? I was guessing this monday.
Yep I know you the used parts go to guy, Thanks for all the help.

 

[bama]

They run pretty well ,BUT the reed block assy on that particular version (orange body) is obsolete, not available, screws up often, and you can't fit the later version... without machining the case.

Having said that... flipping the reed upside down, and careful application of HFP on all gaskets can solve the problems (the reed block distorts and leaks).

When you say "all gaskets", do you mean the crankcase gasket, cylinder base gasket, and all the periphials, or just the fuel related gaskets. I will be reassembling the 011 I am working on next week(hopefully) and I want to do it right. BTW, what is HFP?

Thanks, Lakeside.

 

[Cut4fun]

Well took the carb and stuff off the stihl 009 donor saw and just finished up some test cuts with the stihl 011AV. Little bit of a pita to work on, but all worked out in the end. So now i have a little saw that i have no use for. . But was neat to mess with and bring back from the grave, literally. What cc is the 011? Also i have it set at 11,600 rpm's, I tried to put it on the rich side a hair. Does this sound right?
Running 16", I think.

 

[Big feller]

Well awhile back I posted about my buddy finding a chainsaw case at the landfill he works and found it to contain a saw too, he thought it was a little stihl 020, wasn't sure though. Well it wasnt.
Well today i got it and it is a nice little 011AV. The price is right for me, so i guess I got another project saw. Has spark, good compression. Looks like some carb issues in my opinion right now.
So are these decent little saws? Neat how it has the rear handle on such a small saw too.

Great little saw. Works well on 16in bar.

Check the tank vent - pipe with a grub screw inside - that comes out above the clutch. It should have a small foam filter over the end. Still available earlier this year for a few cents. Sometimes the tube forms over the screw and restricts air flow.

Big feller

 

[Cut4fun]

Well big feller I will check that. But as of now she is a pretty good runner, for what it is.
What cc is this saw?

 

[begleytree]

Kevin, you need any parts for that, holler at me. I have at least 20 009s and 011s here (parts saws)
-Ralph

 

[STIHL-KID]

They run pretty well ,BUT the reed block assy on that particular version (orange body) is obsolete, not available, screws up often, and you can't fit the later version... without machining the case.

Having said that... flipping the reed upside down, and careful application of HFP on all gaskets can solve the problems (the reed block distorts and leaks).

Not sure how different the 010AV and 011AV are? My father got a nice looking 010AV from a friend a year ago. The saw leaked really bad when he got it. The local Stihl dealership had it for 2 weeks and kept chasing leaks. I'm pretty sure his saw was suffering the same symptoms as what Lakeside described. Currently the saw runs great/no leaks. I included a pic of it just for the heck of it.

 

[Scooterbum]

The displacement is 41cc.Nice little saw.Cuts good for it's size.
I just finished one 2 weeks ago.Top end,seals and typical carb,fuel lines and filter.
The only thing I didn't like was putting the rod bearings back in after they fell out all over the place. A lot of cussing.
All things considered it was a good learning experience.
Rebuilt an 041 farm boss last sunday,this is additive

 

[Lakeside53]

When you say "all gaskets", do you mean the crankcase gasket, cylinder base gasket, and all the periphials, or just the fuel related gaskets. I will be reassembling the 011 I am working on next week(hopefully) and I want to do it right. BTW, what is HFP?

Thanks, Lakeside.

Sorry,missed this post - No, just the reed block gaskets. The rest are dry. HPF is Hylomar.

 

[Big feller]

They run pretty well ,BUT the reed block assy on that particular version (orange body) is obsolete, not available, screws up often, and you can't fit the later version... without machining the case.



Pardon my ignorance - what is the reed block?

The reason I ask is that I am having to pull a few more times than I would like to get my 011AV started. When I was given it the saw started with a couple of pulls but wouldn't run properly. I soon found that the previous owner had replaced the tank vent filter with a screw and the pipe had closed on it. He had then enriched the mixture to compensate and things went badly wrong.

I replaced the filter,put in a new carb kit and went back to initial settings. The saw now cuts well, but I reckon it should be possible to get it to start easier. I just wondered from your post if my saw is suffering from a common malaise. Whatever the reed block is, I guess I ought to check it out!

Thanks,

Big feller.

 

[Big feller]

Also i have it set at 11,600 rpm's, I tried to put it on the rich side a hair. Does this sound right?
Running 16", I think.

I just looked at the service manual for the 011AV. This gives the rated off load with bar and chain as 9,500 to 9,800 r.p.m.

Perhaps Lakeside can help with whether or not this figure can safely be exceeded with modern oil. I have erred on the safe side and set mine a bit under 10,000.

Big feller.

 

[Cut4fun]

It cut good at that, but i will go see if i can get it under 10k without 4 stroking.

If anyone has a running Partner 5000 that they want to trade for this saw, let me know. I really dont have a use for it in my stable.

 

[Lakeside53]

Modern oil wasn't the issue - it mechanically shouldn't be wound way up, and in any case, the reed is most of your limitation. I just set them to 10-11k...

If you ever looked at the crank, you wouldn't want to wind them up..

 

[Cut4fun]

10k-11k...

If you ever looked at the crank, you wouldn't want to wind them up..

I seen what you are talking about lake, i used a 009 basket case for a parts donor. Crank shot, rod shot, spun bearings, cylinder + piston cooked in the 009 donor saw.
Ended up with one more good reed valve assembly too.