Stihl 660 Magnum,, is it just me,, or,,,,,,,,,,, ?

[SweetMK]

I got a 660 Magnum in one of those "keep this for collateral" deals,, so I ain't hurt,,, but,,
I have used it several times,,

What my issue is:
The starter rope seems too short,,

I do not notice a rope length issue on my 029 or MS261,, but, the 660 Magnum, the rope "seems" a foot too short.

The reason I think it is correct is that I took it apart a number of years ago,, the way the rope is made you can clearly tell it is factory length.
I guess, to me,, the bigger engine would feel better IF I had a chance to get it turning over better.
I am tall, and therefore have long arms,, maybe it is just me,, ?
Am I wishing for something that just is not there??

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Should be 4.5mm X 1000mm (or 3'3"and 3/8" for you lot).
So fully extended, how much rope comes out of the starter housing?

 

[SweetMK]

Well I got out to the shed today,,
from the exit hole in the saw cover for the rope,, the rope measures 28 inches to the end of the pull handle. fully extended.
Add about 4-5 inches to get the rope in and on the pulley and tie the knots,,
I figure I am probably about 7 inches short of rope,,
(I have been told an extra 7 inches can usually help,,! LLLOL!!)

Is the $5 price on eBay for 1000mm of OEM Stihl rope a good price,
or would (SHOULD) my Stihl guy sell me the piece of rope for less??
(I hate walking in the Stihl place, and the guy asks 2 to 3X for something can get off eBay delivered free!!)

The rope on the saw now has the molded ends,,
I am surprised someone could reinstall the molded end.
Can that be done?? (EASILY,,, LOL!!)

 

[Woodslasher]

Well I got out to the shed today,,
from the exit hole in the saw cover for the rope,, the rope measures 28 inches to the end of the pull handle. fully extended.
Add about 4-5 inches to get the rope in and on the pulley and tie the knots,,
I figure I am probably about 7 inches short of rope,,
(I have been told an extra 7 inches can usually help,,! LLLOL!!)

Is the $5 price on eBay for 1000mm of OEM Stihl rope a good price,
or would (SHOULD) my Stihl guy sell me the piece of rope for less??
(I hate walking in the Stihl place, and the guy asks 2 to 3X for something can get off eBay delivered free!!)

The rope on the saw now has the molded ends,,
I am surprised someone could reinstall the molded end.
Can that be done?? (EASILY,,, LOL!!)

Molded ends? Do you mean melted ends? I can melt a rope with a lighter in nothing flat. My local shops sell/sold pull rope for ~ a buck a foot, I got 3 feet of top handle pull rope for $3 a few days ago, I'd hope your shop would do the same. Just bring the rope in, say you need a new one this size and they should pull 3 feet off a roll and hook you up with a new piece on the spot.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Molded ends? Do you mean melted ends? I can melt a rope with a lighter in nothing flat. My local shops sell/sold pull rope for ~ a buck a foot, I got 3 feet of top handle pull rope for $3 a few days ago, I'd hope your shop would do the same. Just bring the rope in, say you need a new one this size and they should pull 3 feet off a roll and hook you up with a new piece on the spot.

Yeah, but hang on a moment and step back from Californian glide time- it is an MS660- as such it should have an elastostart handle? Hence the moulded bit. Don't think the recoil cover has been removed yet to see the melted end!
Cheapest way for the previous owner to replace an elastostart is to refit the shortened rope to the recoil pulley- thus leaving a rope short by the amount from the break back to the pulley knot.

If it is a standard handle, buy a meter of 4.5mm starter rope, tie a couple of knots, melt the butt ends and learn how to retension a recoil spring.
If it is an elastostart handle- go buy a new rope from the Stihl dealer with the handle factory fitted- only one knot to tie, one butt end to melt- but you still have to tension the spring.

 

[Woodslasher]

Yeah, but hang on a moment and step back from Californian glide time

Huh? I'm not sure what "glide time" is, but I do agree on the Elastostart bit. I'm not sure why it would have busted down low and been re-spliced, but it can be done. As for tensioning the spring with the Elastostart stuff, see how many revolutions you get out of one with a full rope and prewind the pulley another turn or two past that, feed the rope in, knot the end, and let it rewind itself.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Huh? I'm not sure what "glide time" is, but I do agree on the Elastostart bit. I'm not sure why it would have busted down low and been re-spliced, but it can be done. As for tensioning the spring with the Elastostart stuff, see how many revolutions you get out of one with a full rope and prewind the pulley another turn or two past that, feed the rope in, knot the end, and let it rewind itself.

Isn't everyone in California on glide time?
Must be a Southern Hemisphere thing- I always tension the spring AFTER knotting the rope and or fitting the handle.

 

[Woodslasher]

Isn't everyone in California on glide time?
Must be a Southern Hemisphere thing- I always tension the spring AFTER knotting the rope and or fitting the handle.

Do you mean daylight savings time? "Glide time" is a new term for me.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Do you mean daylight savings time? "Glide time" is a new term for me.

No, more just gliding along rather than marching to the beat.

 

[Woodslasher]

No, more just gliding along rather than marching to the beat.

I've never really realized that two people can both be speaking English and also speaking different languages at the same time. The dictionary rescued me, "glide time" sounds similar to working from home, except I believe working from home is typically based on a production-regulated pattern while it sounds like glide time is based on a chronologically-regulated pattern.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I've never really realized that two people can both be speaking English and also speaking different languages at the same time. The dictionary rescued me, "glide time" sounds similar to working from home, except I believe working from home is typically based on a production-regulated pattern while it sounds like glide time is based on a chronologically-regulated pattern.

No, we speak English- you guys speak a dialect of your own, complete with local spelling.
Over here, you used to be able to employ someone to plough a paddock for you and pay them with a cheque.
Whereas you would be paying someone with a check to plow a field.

 

[Woodslasher]

No, we speak English- you guys speak a dialect of your own, complete with local spelling.
Over here, you used to be able to employ someone to plough a paddock for you and pay them with a cheque.
Whereas you would be paying someone with a check to plow a field.

Yeah, my family refers to it as "speaking American". I can't think of any words who's spelling changes based on locality, but I hath received the drift thy frigate hath been imparting. Outta curiosity, how do Tassies spell grey? Gray? Grey? Greigh? I was writing something and realized I was spelling it "grey", but I thought Americans spelled it "gray".

 

[Mad Professor]

Should be 4.5mm X 1000mm (or 3'3"and 3/8" for you lot).
So fully extended, how much rope comes out of the starter housing?

typo? closer to 3/16"

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Yeah, my family refers to it as "speaking American". I can't think of any words who's spelling changes based on locality, but I hath received the drift thy frigate hath been imparting. Outta curiosity, how do Tassies spell grey? Gray? Grey? Greigh? I was writing something and realized I was spelling it "grey", but I thought Americans spelled it "gray".

Mate, ask a Tasmanian, Bro- I'm a Kiwi!

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

typo? closer to 3/16"

No typo- the 3'3"and 3/8"is the imperial conversion of 1 meter.
5/16ths is the closest rope diameter to 4.5mm but is closer to 5mm at 4.8mm.

 

[huskihl]

No typo- the 3'3"and 3/8"is the imperial conversion of 1 meter.
5/16ths is the closest rope diameter to 4.5mm but is closer to 5mm at 4.8mm.

5/16” is 7.938mm

That’s why his screen name isn’t Bob Mathematician

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

5/16” is 7.938mm

That’s why his screen name isn’t Bob Mathematician

That was the typo! 3 is near enough to 5 isn't it?

 

[L34]

Gray.
But I also spell it grey.
Proud Tasweigan.
Tasmania,NZ all the same ay Bob?

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Gray.
But I also spell it grey.
Proud Tasweigan.
Tasmania,NZ all the same ay Bob?

Yep, same as a Mexifornian.

 

[SweetMK]

I had the MS660 running yesterday,, WHAT A BEAST!! The last time I ran it, the chain was improperly sharpened,
Because of that chain,, i did not like the saw, as it did not cut well,, not any more,, now it cuts great.

So my new question,,
Is there any way to fix the cover on a wrap handle?? I have a "chunk" of the cover missing,,,

Or, is it best to forget about the missing plastic??