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idave73

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My chain does not seem to be getting any oil.I made sure the bar was clean and the oil port open.Bar and chain getting very hot.any help would be appreciated.Saw has a 20 in bar & chain
 
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My chain does not seem to be getting any oil.I made sure the bar was clean and the oil port open.Bar and chain getting very hot.any help would be appreciated.Saw has a 20 in bar & chain

Is it oiling or is it not, very simple way to find out. Take the bar and chain off the saw. Leave the bar nuts and cover off as well. Make sure the oil tank is full of oil and start the saw. Rev it abit and look right above the bar studs and see if oil is coming out. If not call me back, if oil is coming out problem solved. Go take and look and report back!!
 
oiler

ok not getting oil & i found oil line off behind clutch.how do i get clutch off to put new oil line on.
 
ok not getting oil & i found oil line off behind clutch.how do i get clutch off to put new oil line on.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. You need to take the sprocket off by merely removing the snap key and pulling it off. Take out the spark plug. Insert a small 3/8 piece of rope into the spark plug hole to block the piston. Be sure you block the piston on the upward stroke as to turn the clutch to the right to take it off. Do not fill the cylinder with rope, just enough on the upward stoke to stop the piston so you can remove the clutch. Put your oil hose back on only after you inspect it and its in good condition. If bad replace it with a new one. Reverse order off assembly and your oiling again.
 
Ok, now we're getting somewhere. You need to take the sprocket off by merely removing the snap key and pulling it off. Take out the spark plug. Insert a small 3/8 piece of rope into the spark plug hole to block the piston. Be sure you block the piston on the upward stroke as to turn the clutch to the right to take it off. Do not fill the cylinder with rope, just enough on the upward stoke to stop the piston so you can remove the clutch. Put your oil hose back on only after you inspect it and its in good condition. If bad replace it with a new one. Reverse order off assembly and your oiling again.

and its left hand thread on the clutch assembly idler BTW!!!!!!!!!
 
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ioler

ok took it all apart & all seem to be ok.I'll try it uot in the morning & let you guys know how i did. Thank You Very Much, Dave
 
oiler

saw is getting some oil but bar & chain are getting extremely hot & smoking.any more ideas.
 
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saw is getting some oil but bar & chain are getting extremely hot & smoking.any more ideas.

check your chain tension? is the brake on? oiler turned up? good oil, not motor oil? oil pickup strainer in the oil tank clear? oil holes in the bar clear? correct guage chain for the bar?

could be a few different things now that you've gotten the saw at least oiling.
-Ralph
 
farm boss

stihl oil,chain tension is good chain came from stihl dealer who had the saw for service so i assume chain is right.brake not on.when i have bar off oil comes out real good.
 
stihl oil,chain tension is good chain came from stihl dealer who had the saw for service so i assume chain is right.brake not on.when i have bar off oil comes out real good.

ok, the holes (and the bar groove itself), are they clean and open? if you're getting oil, but not on the chain, this is where I'd look. some bars have better oil holes than others, but they all get clogged up. clean the bar groove and oil holes, then check to be sure the oil holes line up with the oiler groove on the saw itslef, I'm sure it does, but it's a quick look anyway
-Ralph
 
farm boss

i took the bar off & made sure holes where clean & lined up.when not cutting chain is getting oil,but as soon as i try to cut the bar gets so hot that you could fry an egg on it.
 
Is your chain sharp?

Will it fling oil off the end of the chain if revved up for a few seconds?
 
i took the bar off & made sure holes where clean & lined up.when not cutting chain is getting oil,but as soon as i try to cut the bar gets so hot that you could fry an egg on it.

Ok Dave you don't seem to have a oil problem, you got either a bar,chain or sprocket problem. If the chain is dull she gets scolding hot as she rubs in the wood instead of cuts in the wood. If the bar rails are worn down the chain tries to sieze to it as it goes around it causing enourmous heat. Chain tightness on the bar plays a factor too. When that saw is cold you should be able to pull the chain around the bar easily with your hand. If you can't its either too tight or you got a worn sprocket grabbing it. Look at the sprocket. If it has deep cut marks in it pitch it. Those deep cuts make a chain drag and grab instead of merely pull.

Make sure the chain is sharp and the easiet way to do it is this. If you have to push down on the saw more than just its own weight to make it cut the chain is dull and under force it will smoke in the wood. As for the bar merely look at it. If the chain rails aren't level and smooth its time to get it fixed or pitch it. Check the sprocket for wear, if worn pitch it.

Your oiler is working so really your down to three things now, all wear items that you will replace sooner or later as they wear out. Other words your narrowing down your problem and you will find the cause. I think you've done good with the oiler, the rest will be a piece of cake to you.....
 
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farm boss

new bar & chian so i guess i will try a new sprocket.not til monday .i will let you know. Thanks Very Much Dave
 
farm boss

I looked at the sprocket & the groves are not deep at all,could the oil pump be weak?i'm going to get a new chain tomorrow,but any other parts i will have to get monday.
 
yeah, take that bar or the entire saw in with you for the chain, just to make sure you get the right one, and have them look over and/or dress the bar as needed.
-Ralph
 
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