I went down to the Cincinnati Bass Pro Shops this afternoon. Mike Price, one of Stihl's four carving team members was there. Real nice guy. He's been doing it for 16 years. He's actually sponsored by Stihl and not a Stihl employ. He used a 270 to debark the cedar and then a 250 with the carving bar. It's was interesting to watch. Pardon the picture quality. They're from my cell phone.