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I wrecked out a large double header Red Oak, and did some other large tree pruning/deadwooding for a guy today (two ascents on the Wraptor, always impressive). The area I was in was like a park setting, but in his back yard/woods. He even had 2 campers parked there and a little shed.

Anyway, I am up this Oak (which was within house distance) and just having a blast picking it apart with the 200T/16" modded combo and as I'm placing all my shots, limbs are whistling between the tops of all the small under growth timber, and the guy looks at his wife and says thats why you hire a pro.

I smiled inside and thought yup, you said it guy. When we got er' done, he was happy as heck, payed up on the spot and gave me and my guy a couple packages of his homemade summer sausage, plus I made a great haul of Red Oak firewood, he kept the smaller firewood.

Just made me feel good about how we conduct ourselves on the job and that every once in a while you get a layman that notices and says exactly what we always say, hire a pro!
 
I wrecked out a large double header Red Oak, and did some other large tree pruning/deadwooding for a guy today (two ascents on the Wraptor, always impressive). The area I was in was like a park setting, but in his back yard/woods. He even had 2 campers parked there and a little shed.

Anyway, I am up this Oak (which was within house distance) and just having a blast picking it apart with the 200T/16" modded combo and as I'm placing all my shots, limbs are whistling between the tops of all the small under growth timber, and the guy looks at his wife and says thats why you hire a pro.

I smiled inside and thought yup, you said it guy. When we got er' done, he was happy as heck, payed up on the spot and gave me and my guy a couple packages of his homemade summer sausage, plus I made a great haul of Red Oak firewood, he kept the smaller firewood.

Just made me feel good about how we conduct ourselves on the job and that every once in a while you get a layman that notices and says exactly what we always say, hire a pro!

I agree! It feel's good to feel good!
Jeff :msp_tongue:
 
Does Medicare or AARP help defray the cost of the wraptor like they do with those electric scooters?
 
Does Medicare or AARP help defray the cost of the wraptor like they do with those electric scooters?

Don't be jealous. You know perfectly well that once a treeguy adds a wraptor and a GRCS to his arsenal, he automatically enters a very special elite club and leaves the rest of us in the dust with our archaic ways.

Sounds like you had a good day nails! :cheers:
 
Cool Beans!
It always feels good when others confirm what ya already know!

Oh! My VA package is done and off to DC, I hope to join that elite club of techno arbs soon.

Nails, getting a couple new 200t's, could ya give the details on the mods, how does it do with a 16" bar? Only run a 12 or 14 on mine. With the 12, its a screamin little mofo!
 
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Joking aside, I pretty much only do removals, and all my 200's have 16's. They run the nuts....
 
Cool Beans!
It always feels good when others confirm what ya already know!

Oh! My VA package is done and off to DC, I hope to join that elite club of techno arbs soon.

Nails, getting a couple new 200t's, could ya give the details on the mods, how does it do with a 16" bar? Only run a 12 or 14 on mine. With the 12, its a screamin little mofo!


Just throw the baffle and spark screen out for starters and if you like drill a 3/8" or so hole in the muffler, this gets a bit loud but I'll take the power.

I have 3 tophandles at the moment and all have there place, 192T 12" is light for prunning, 200T 14" is balanced for larger prunning/thinning/deadwooding or removals, 200T 16" has reach for removals only. I have plans of getting another 200T 16" combo before Stihl phases it out.

The 200T 16's more reach is just more versatile for removals. It alows you to keep your power head back a bit for better vision of the cut and that extra reach for those hard to reach places where you would otherwise grab a rearhandle for that "last cut" before dumping the spar, which we all know is time spent. Power isn't an issue if you keep your saw maintained, preferably modded. I really don't notice a power difference with the longer bar even burried (most of the time it is not)

The 16" does drag through crotches a bit more as I move around the tree because it hangs a bit lower on my belt. But for removals, it really is a negligeable difference and I wouldn't trade the reach for it.

The wraptor is less "Techno Arb" then the guys sporting the 40 piece SRT setups with chest ascenders and everything else. When combined with a Big Shot and a multiple throw line set up it is a very practical piece of equipment that I use almost every job. You can go up fully geared to work, be off of it in seconds, groundman sends it down and bails out of your way and the wood flies.

On multiple tree's the groundman set 1 or 2 lines ahead of me so when I come down its a couple minutes and I am on top of the next one, with a few cut's made on the way up even.

A week back, me and my groundman deadwooded 8, 75' White Oaks in 4 hours, that included rigging on 3 trees over a house. When I went home at noon I still felt fresh and hit the weights. So no Ducati, I will not be on Medicare any time soon.
 
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Just throw the baffle and spark screen out for starters and if you like drill a 3/8" or so hole in the muffler, this gets a bit loud but I'll take the power.

How does it affect your carb and cylinder. My guy's would alway's be removing the spark arrestor's and stuff. I had their saw's in the shop at least every 7 or 8 month's. Beside's, in California, there are sign's along certain area's that say you will be fined if caught without it.
Jeff
 
Just throw the baffle and spark screen out for starters and if you like drill a 3/8" or so hole in the muffler, this gets a bit loud but I'll take the power.

How does it affect your carb and cylinder. My guy's would alway's be removing the spark arrestor's and stuff. I had their saw's in the shop at least every 7 or 8 month's. Beside's, in California, there are sign's along certain area's that say you will be fined if caught without it.
Jeff

Now Jeffy you in the big time now your supposed to put them horns on and get in the ring with the enviro-nuts and make em see the light:hmm3grin2orange:
 
Just throw the baffle and spark screen out for starters and if you like drill a 3/8" or so hole in the muffler, this gets a bit loud but I'll take the power.

How does it affect your carb and cylinder. My guy's would alway's be removing the spark arrestor's and stuff. I had their saw's in the shop at least every 7 or 8 month's. Beside's, in California, there are sign's along certain area's that say you will be fined if caught without it.
Jeff

Just retune the carb and go. The cylinder shouldn't be any worse for wear as long as you retune the carb as to not run lean. More fuel running through and muff modded means the saw is running cooler.

Another thing I do on the operational side of things is stop for a second or two or vary my RPM's on a big cut as to let the engine cool a bit.

With the bigger outfit like you are at in California, probably leave it all stock and keep the warranty in tact and the powers that be happy.

The reality of muffler mods is that they allow the saw to run like it should, like the older models before they all got choked down.
 
Good for you Nails:rock:
They sounded happy with your expertise... and probably even happier when you took yer loud ass saws and went home:laugh:

When I buy a saw the shop says " run some gas through it and bring it back for an adjustment". The first thing they do to adjust it is to take the spark screen and baffle out.
But that is as far as I go, its just to dam loud drilling holes in the things.
 
The other one is when the client introduces you to all the neighbors has "my tree man".

Another thing I do on the operational side of things is stop for a second or two or vary my RPM's on a big cut as to let the engine cool a bit.

You can tell a pro from a beginner by whether he feathers the throttle, or just winds it up through the whole cut. When i was much younger then today, I had an old timer (figuratively) slap me up-side the head, telling me I would have to hump in the gas if I kept wasting it running full throttle....not that I was not the one with that job already....

You can tell who is buying the gas by if the saw gets turned off.
 
Good for you Nails:rock:
They sounded happy with your expertise... and probably even happier when you took yer loud ass saws and went home:laugh:

When I buy a saw the shop says " run some gas through it and bring it back for an adjustment". The first thing they do to adjust it is to take the spark screen and baffle out.
But that is as far as I go, its just to dam loud drilling holes in the things.

Agreed, but everyone knows that the louder the saw is the more work is getting done!
 
The other one is when the client introduces you to all the neighbors has "my tree man".



You can tell a pro from a beginner by whether he feathers the throttle, or just winds it up through the whole cut. When i was much younger then today, I had an old timer (figuratively) slap me up-side the head, telling me I would have to hump in the gas if I kept wasting it running full throttle....not that I was not the one with that job already....

You can tell who is buying the gas by if the saw gets turned off.

Yes, you can usually tell who the responsible party is by how they operate.
 
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