The typical tree guy

[OutOnaLimb]

Dont feel bad Rocky, I see these same type of clowns every day. Maybe that its just a simple matter of "Ignorance is Bliss" I started out about 4 years ago with a pick up and a Home Depot Poulan saw and just got my foot in the door of the tree care industry. Had I been complacent like many of the people that I see tomahawking trees every day I would have never have gained the somewhat limited area of expertise that I have now. Maybe its just my personality, but I thirst for knowledge in all things and I think its just appauling when I meet them on the street. I have even gone so far as to be called a know it all "College Boy" by some hack who has taught himself to do trees 20 years ago and is still doing things the way he figured out how to do it over two decades ago. It can be frustrating at times, but Ya just deal with it, learn what ya can from others, (good or bad) and drive on with your own show.

Kenn

:Monkey:

 

[xtremetrees]

Who am I to judge a man trying to make a living I feel pround to be associated with anyone man or woman that runs a chainsaw for a living. No matter how incompetent. Chainsaws are inheriently dangerous and to make a living, feed your family with it is something I look up to in a person. I try to be aware of my own self rightous indignation when it comes to "hacks" I am a hack. I have left more stubbs or liontailed a tree when i knew it was bad. Customer paid me to do just that.
The self righoutous indignation its a comfortable feeling of superiority others easily detect an will never listen to.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I let my actions do all the talking for me! Whenever I'm selling myself to a new client, I tell them if they don't like how I perform on the first day, they don't have to pay. I haven't had a taker yet.

I love what I do for a living... I can't believe I get paid so well to do such a simple thing... climb a tree.

 

[xander9727]

MB,
If it's so simple, why is it so hard to teach people? I've learned through my life that if you don't have a natural inclination for something it is very difficult. Conversely if you are inclined in an area it's baffeling as to why people can't grasp the concept. The vast majority of society can't climb a 24' extention ladder much less a 100' tree. If they can't learn knots they'll never be a successful climber (there goes another huge group of people). They must be able to start, safely operate and quite often maintain a chainsaw while suspended high above the earth. I'm sure you get the point, many of us on this site see our job as tedious but simple. The majority of the rest of the hapless souls that only wish they had our dexterity, perseverance, courage, strength, stamina, charisma and our course natural good looks cannot fathom doing what we so easily do. I'm convinced that in the civilian community, we are at the top of the food chain. Yes, I'm a legend in my own mind. So far my 2 and 4 year olds are convinced........we'll see how long it lasts.

 

[MasterBlaster]

It must be a natural inclination on my part, I guess. I spent the first 20 years of my life climbing trees for fun... and free.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

If I casually speak to proper tree care vs denegrating their current practices, I find myself more able to turn them to my line of thought.

One of my favorite moments is when they try to explain to me something I told them a year ago.

Plant a seed and watch it grow.

Arogance will got you nowhere, except maybe to the door. I've known some good worlers whove tried this line, but failed because people don't want their attitudes back.

 

[xander9727]

I agree JPS, people have to be open to change. Forcing never seems to work.

Thanks for giving Charly my #, Talked to him Thursday morning. He seems to be a stand up guy.

 

[xander9727]

I think he was commenting on my previous post Brian.

Remember,

Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't against you!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by xander9727
I think he was commenting on my previous post Brian.

That was my intent.

Even if I was, you should be the last one to complain about that sort of thing

Why do the biggest mouths have the thinnest skins

Oh whell, such is life.

 

[SilverBlue]

My my how time flies. It still seems like yesterday, a younger Brian equipped with minimal gear still using the ol fashioned hitches was the student learning from the pros here. Did others go postal on this fella who was once ignorant of the advanced methods of climbing?
Come to think about it would you still have progressed the same today if not for the collective input of many pros here or would you still be the typical tree guy working the ol taughtline hitch?

 

[MasterBlaster]

I still luvs me a nice tauntline, meself!

 

[Dadatwins]

Hey, why did this thread go from ignorant hack & slash wanna -be-treeman to ripping the the old taut-line guys again? Unfortunalty there are always going to be a bunch of wanna-be tree-guys out there and many should be kind of thankful for that. If everyone was a pro in this biz there goes goes the demand for someone that really knows their stuff. I had a guy in a landscape truck stop me one day to ask about his new 440 that would not cut. Said he just had the chain sharpened and it still would not work. Worked fine after I turned the chain the right way. Got a couple of job referals from that guy after that.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
Seems like the only one with a big mouth lately is you, John. Again, please keep your personal attacks off the forum.

Once again...I did not and have not attacked you.

Geez

 

[MasterBlaster]

Hey John Paul... you know how it is when your tall and bowed-up... eh?

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
Seems like the only one with a big mouth lately is you, John. Again, please keep your personal attacks off the forum.

It's funny that you acuse JP of attacking you, when this whole thread is about me.
I buy a new chain each time I dull my saw, 'cus it's easier than filing. The only thing you said wrong was I had a Stihl 039, when my biggest saw is an 029, with an 18 inch blade.
The big problem is if my pick-up truck is full of brush, I can't set my saw on the gate to sharpen it, not that it matters because it cuts much worse than when it's dull after I sharpen it.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
and bowed-up

I missed that one, I was not too tall for it to go over my head.

 

[Stumper]

Awww Come on guys-we aren't supposed to be enemies. I know what Brian means-"Tree trimmer" is often the "career" of people with limited skills who happen to be willing to work."Got me a pick-up and a chainsaw and I ken make a hunnert dollas a day, easy." On the other hand being a Professional Arborist does get respect -when you present yourself and your pofession as something deserving of respect. John is absolutely correct-not every "Harry the hacker"is an idiot or unteachable. Giving respect and talking about our shared profession as a profession can inspire some to become better.:angel:

 

[legendrider]

Regarding Taught line Hitch

If this is such a "dinosaur" hitch why do Arborist Schools still teach them to new climbers as a good working hitch? It was the first hitch I learned and I went to school this past Janurary. Now I am confuzed.

 

[Dadatwins]

Re: Regarding Taught line Hitch

Originally posted by legendrider
If this is such a "dinosaur" hitch why do Arborist Schools still teach them to new climbers as a good working hitch? It was the first hitch I learned and I went to school this past Janurary

What school was this? Did they teach about possible rollout of the hitch? How did they tie it? I still use it but many here on this site will tear the dinosaur knot to shreads.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Re: Re: Regarding Taught line Hitch

Originally posted by Dadatwins
I still use it but many here on this site will tear the dinosaur knot to shreads.

Gimme yur best shot...