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These guys seem to think long hours of hard work in dangerous conditions for minimal pay isn't that desirable.

The 10 Worst Jobs of 2012 | CareerCast.com

“We're still using paper and wood products all the time, but nowadays, kids would rather play video games instead of working hard and getting their hands dirty."

Not exactly a promising outlook is it
 
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yea, saw that this am, just a little bummer and concerning as you mention.

good news is my kid is interested at age 8- never misses a chance to help me in the woods, be it measuring sticks for me or dragging brush, even tried the loader a few times, and others on here have shared similar stories about their kids, so i guess it is up to us :msp_wink:
 
"It's finding people who want to do it and work hard at it that is declining.”

I have a problem with that.

I am more than willing to get into the industry. But every logger or falling contractor I've talked to this year so far always asks, "how much experience do you have?"

And I tell them the truth; "Some timber falling experience and a lot of hazard tree falling experience."

"Well, you need more experience."

Yes, I do. But, I can't get experience if you don't hire me!
 
I have a problem with that.

I am more than willing to get into the industry. But every logger or falling contractor I've talked to this year so far always asks, "how much experience do you have?"

And I tell them the truth; "Some timber falling experience and a lot of hazard tree falling experience."

"Well, you need more experience."

Yes, I do. But, I can't get experience if you don't hire me!

The young fallers I've seen are working with guys who watch them carefully, and kind of sponsor (I can't think of another word) them....speak up for them. It's usually guys who have known each other, are family, or they're like family.

A young man I know got to cut for a while with a well established faller. His dad arranged it. His dad was the one who got the logging job too.

It's tough, but that's how it works around here.
 
Yea I think part of the issue is the old-timers out there who forget that they were inexperienced once as well

Not necessarily. And not in every case. The main problem is the lack of steady work and the resultant lack of a dependable income. There are always more fallers than there are jobs.

If I need some help for a few days there are a dozen guys I can call who live within an hour of my place. Out of that dozen, all of whom are good fallers, I'm sure to find two or three at any given time who are looking for work. If I have a steady job, steady being a month or two long, my phone will start ringing with guys looking for work before the ink is dry on the contract.

A member here recently asked about working for me. I wish I could have hired him. He's got the basics down and I think he would have done a fine job for me. But why offer him work when I know darn well that he can't survive on what little work I have?

The other outfits I know of, those that would pay him and not get him killed, have the same crews coming back year after year. Somebody has to die or retire before there are any good steady jobs.

Us "old-timers" haven't forgotten what it's like to get started in this business. And that's one of the reasons that we're usually darn careful about what we promise.
 
Yea I think part of the issue is the old-timers out there who forget that they were inexperienced once as well

And they still want to do it the way it was done in the old day and don't think there are new and improved ways of doing things.
 
I have a problem with that.

I am more than willing to get into the industry. But every logger or falling contractor I've talked to this year so far always asks, "how much experience do you have?"

And I tell them the truth; "Some timber falling experience and a lot of hazard tree falling experience."

"Well, you need more experience."

Yes, I do. But, I can't get experience if you don't hire me!

Jameson,

It's rough when you're starting out, I know.
Long long ago in a galaxy far......no wait, that's another story.
Many moons ago, I decided that I wanted to go to work for the mill here because it was the best thing going in these parts. I had done some thinning, and had cut firewood but had 0 experience in logging. I applied for a fallers position and was turned down cold. You know, the old; "Sorry kid, you just don't have the experience we're looking for". I was determined to work for this outfit so I met the crew at the convenience store every morning at 4:30 and tried to sell myself to the saw boss, and the cat boss. One morning after about a month of meeting them at 4:30 and never being late (as a matter of fact I was waiting on them to show up), I saw the cat boss talking to the saw boss, then they came over to me. Cat boss told me to have my crap together in the morning and he'd try me out on the landing, the pay would be $4.50 an hour. I went to work that next day bumping knots, and whatever else I was told to do. I made them a hand on the landing. Cat skinner never had to get off the cat at the landing, my saw was always sharp and never out of gas. Unlike the other "deckies " I didn't bring a novel to read while waiting on the cat, there was always something productive to do. They had raised me up to $8.00 an hour by the second full week I was there.
After about 3 months a falling position came open again, they gave me a shot at it. I nearly starved to death, but I survived the first month. That's when one of the "old timers" (about my age now) decided to take me under his wing before I killed myself or someone else. I feel like I owe him for everything I've got from this industry.
Man, all that seems so long ago. :dizzy:

I guess the moral to my story is: If you're persistant, and show good qualities you might get on. Even if it's pushing a broom in their shop at the mill, take it. Be the absolute best that you can be at what they put you doing. If they are worth their salt, they will notice, If not keep looking. It doesn't mater what you do, you have to start at the bottom, unless like Patty said and your dad knows someone.

Good luck out there.

Andy
 
Dude you should watch where you step. We don't need that kind of stuff drug in here.

I didn't mean anyone in here i mean OLD guys like my grandpa telling me i dont need all that junk on to climb a tree because he never wore it. Sorry i didn't mean for it to come out that way. And you guys aren't old you're seasoned vets that i have learned from while being here so don't skin me.
 
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I didn't mean anyone in here i mean OLD guys like my grandpa telling me i dont need all that junk on to climb a tree because he never wore it. Sorry i didn't mean for it to come out that way.

Ok, I guess you're off the hook with me for now. I don't want to think about climbing anymore. But your grandpa's probably right, you probably don't need everything you climb with. :laugh:

Andy
 
I didn't mean anyone in here i mean OLD guys like my grandpa telling me i dont need all that junk on to climb a tree because he never wore it. Sorry i didn't mean for it to come out that way. And you guys aren't old you're seasoned vets that i have learned from while being here so don't skin me.

Okay, you're off the hook. So quit with the mush stuff.:msp_biggrin:
 
Want it bad enough, you'll get it. All of it. The good, the bad, the ugly.

Just pretend you're a chessie. Worked for me anyways............
 
How about the guy that pumps out the portable toilets? Now there's somebody that really wants a job.

That's not such a bad job really, and the contractors that service the porta-johns in the big fire camps are making top dollar.
The going rate for the truck is $101/hr and the operator gets $33/hr. Owner/operator makes a pretty penny by the time a summer is over.

I worked for a guy when I was in high school cleaning the grease traps at local restaurants. I'm not talking the little "insinkerator" kind, but the
industrial 20-60 gallon grease traps built into floors or basements of the largest kitchens. Dead rats, remains of slaughtered animals, sewage,
and dentures were among the many lovely things I shoveled out of them by hand. We even found a glass eye in one.

Nothing makes me gag now, nothing.
 
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