Throw line....

[zulu38]

In what situations do you professionals use of a throw line and how often do you need one?

Could you use one to attach a pull rope high in a tree?

 

[treemandan]

Well, why do you want to know?

Actually I know why. You want to pull a tree over. Yup, that's how. easiest thing in the world.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

To us climbers the throwline in an indispensible tool. We use it to set lines to climb on, set ropes to pull trees over, set ropes for rigging (saving to climber from having to climb out and set the rope) and even for pulling back a house drop for clearance.

 

[Tree Pig]

Throw ropes

Almost every tree. Even if your just using it to install a pull rope. Pull rope should be in the top 1/3 of the tree so throwing it up is the most efficent way to get it up there. As mentioned before if you can set all your ropes from the ground it makes things a lot faster when you climb up and start working. Ill even use it to get my pole saw in the tree before I go up on occasion.

 

[lego1970]

I got a crappy arm so I just aim for the lowest branch, then from there I'm normaly able to use my pruner pole to advance the line, however I've mostly done either removals, powerline clearance, or pipeline clearance so I been allowed to use gaffs more often then not. I've seen some guys set a rope, footlock up and be in position before I can hook up it :blush:.

 

[Lawnmowerboy48]

I got a crappy arm so I just aim for the lowest branch, then from there I'm normaly able to use my pruner pole to advance the line, however I've mostly done either removals, powerline clearance, or pipeline clearance so I been allowed to use gaffs more often then not. I've seen some guys set a rope, footlock up and be in position before I can hook up it :blush:.

I really hope that you really have a very crappy arm and are not actually trying to throw the weight into the tree.

 

[Tree Pig]

I really hope that you really have a very crappy arm and are not actually trying to throw the weight into the tree.

wow good call there missed that... No one could actually be trying to literally toss the bag up there. I hope.

 

[m.green]

In what situations do you professionals use of a throw line and how often do you need one?

Could you use one to attach a pull rope high in a tree?

The main situation to use a throw line is when you are climbing. Mainly when you aren't spiking the tree. (free climb) If you spike the tree you leave it vulnerable to all sorts of disease.

If by pull rope you mean a rope you are going to use to pull down a tree I suppose that would work with a throw line (get the rope where you want it) and ten tie a running bowline. Even the it would be dangerous to you and your men because you aren't up there making sure everything is set properly.

So in my opinion a throw line is mainly used when you are free climbing.

Oh and yeah, I like rep so gimme some

 

[ropensaddle]

I am a sheep bastid, one used rubber mallet, one screw in eye one 1/8 inch rope by 150 foot is my throw ball. I am working on an arrow system that will use my traditional bow and a cedar arrow with a weight 1/2 ounce and some zing it string it will keep me in practice for deer season lolI just can't spring for the zing lmao.

 

[lego1970]

I really hope that you really have a very crappy arm and are not actually trying to throw the weight into the tree.

Wait a minute your not suppose to throw it like a baseball?

Just kidding, "crappy arm" I'm meaning like bad aim.
I can't ever seem to get it in the crotch I want or remotely close for that matter. I guess with practice I would get better, but I'm ok with my poles and getting to the first limb. I have a big shot, which helps the aim from side to side but still can't get the distance right, however as mentioned in another post the sling shot is awesome for getting drunk and launching walnut with my nieghbors.

 

[lostcoastland]

i've tried using a sling shot but the band came arouund and tangled in the throw line but it might work if you had one of those push buttom Zebco's loaded with spider line..then pulled your zing....then your rope's

 

[oldirty]

The main situation to use a throw line is when you are climbing. Mainly when you aren't spiking the tree. (free climb) If you spike the tree you leave it vulnerable to all sorts of disease.

If by pull rope you mean a rope you are going to use to pull down a tree I suppose that would work with a throw line (get the rope where you want it) and ten tie a running bowline. Even the it would be dangerous to you and your men because you aren't up there making sure everything is set properly.

So in my opinion a throw line is mainly used when you are free climbing.

Oh and yeah, I like rep so gimme some

actually its rope climbing. free climbing is using nothing but hands and feet.

and from the ground, you really cant get any easier than tying a running bowline and pulling it into the tree.

no rep for you.

 

[outofmytree]

actually its rope climbing. free climbing is using nothing but hands and feet.

and from the ground, you really cant get any easier than tying a running bowline and pulling it into the tree.

no rep for you.

Damn it man, you beat me to it.!

 

[outofmytree]

Wait a minute your not suppose to throw it like a baseball?

Just kidding, "crappy arm" I'm meaning like bad aim.
I can't ever seem to get it in the crotch I want or remotely close for that matter. I guess with practice I would get better, but I'm ok with my poles and getting to the first limb. I have a big shot, which helps the aim from side to side but still can't get the distance right, however as mentioned in another post the sling shot is awesome for getting drunk and launching walnut with my nieghbors.

Brother you need a bigshot. Its way easier to aim and if you use a decent 16oz bag you sometimes don't even need to dead wood the sucker, just shoot the limbs off.

 

[lostcoastland]

oh man...i have a deadwooding job that is going on where that would work great!! little redwood limbs that break easy but are everywhere...one day i actualy tied a green branch to a strap and just broke everything off clean didnt even need a chainsaw..did about 4 trees like that.

 

[appalachianarbo]

If by pull rope you mean a rope you are going to use to pull down a tree I suppose that would work with a throw line (get the rope where you want it) and ten tie a running bowline. Even the it would be dangerous to you and your men because you aren't up there making sure everything is set properly.

It's not dangerous at all (although you might not get a good pull if you throw into a tree blindly and can't follow the path of the line). Learn how to isolate branches and you're all set. I use a running bowline quite frequently (and if I can't isolate the limb or trunk, I'll toss it over a few limbs, let the line slide down the back of the tree, pull my rope through and tie it off above my cut. It provides excellent pull, plus the line usually passes over several limbs. Also, after the tree is on the ground, you don't have to wade through a pile of limbs to untie the rope and get it out of the way before you start delimbing. Your knot is right on the log in front of you.

I can't ever seem to get it in the crotch I want or remotely close for that matter. I guess with practice I would get better, but I'm ok with my poles and getting to the first limb.

Keep practicing. Setting your line from the ground is the way to go. Setting it over each limb with a pole is way too time consuming, and probably tiring too. Make sure the line is tangle free, develop a technique (I form a basket and fling it with two hands from between my legs), and stick with it. When I throw, I make sure my hands are pointing at my target when I finish the throw. Soon you'll be hitting 90' crotches on the first throw.

 

[chemist]

Don't know if I need to say this, but make sure you know the breaking strength of your line. If your going to pull a tree down with it, you don't want it to snap before it does its job. If you are using an 'arborist' throw line you should be ok. Wrap it around a good size stick and haul away!

 

[zulu38]

Don't know if I need to say this, but make sure you know the breaking strength of your line. If your going to pull a tree down with it, you don't want it to snap before it does its job. If you are using an 'arborist' throw line you should be ok. Wrap it around a good size stick and haul away!

I wasn't going to pull a tree down with the throwline. I just want to attach a 1/2" 3-strand rope to the tree, in the top 1/3. and use a Maasdam Rope Puller to guide the tree. It is a dead oak and I have to be precise as to where it falls. Thanks!

 

[ddhlakebound]

I wasn't going to pull a tree down with the throwline. I just want to attach a 1/2" 3-strand rope to the tree, in the top 1/3. and use a Maasdam Rope Puller to guide the tree. It is a dead oak and I have to be precise as to where it falls. Thanks!

Dead trees and precision falling don't always work so well together.

Your high pull line will bring the tree over center, but after that it's job is done. The precision comes from how the tree is gunned and where in the canopy the center of gravity its, and how well your hinge holds as the tree is coming over. Dead hinge wood breaks easily sometimes, and then gravity takes over and the tree goes where it wants.

Got pics?

 

[zulu38]

Thanks for the advise. I will post some pictures as soon as I can.