Throw Weight Preference.
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NickfromWI
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Lighter weight goes up easier. Heavier comes down easier.
I like an 8 ounce, but FEW people will deal with that light of a bag. I throw mine up, and if it's rough bark, I'll let it come to the ground, then clip on another bag, then use the 2 to do any finaggling I need to in order to isolate the branch I want.
I think most people use a 12.
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I like an 8 ounce, but FEW people will deal with that light of a bag. I throw mine up, and if it's rough bark, I'll let it come to the ground, then clip on another bag, then use the 2 to do any finaggling I need to in order to isolate the branch I want.
I think most people use a 12.
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Climb020
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I mainly use a 10 oz. but I do keep a 8 oz. on hand for higher shots.
HurricaneHunter
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Adjustable weight and disposable
Try a 20 oz. plastic drink bottle. You won't spend money on a throw bag/ball again! You can adjust the weight easily and they don't cost you anything. I've been using them for the past 7-8 years. You laugh! But, I'm not kidding! Try it, you'll like it. People get a kick out of it when they see me use it. It is kind of funny but you'll be amazed at how well they work. (Mountain Dew bottles are the strongest)
Try a 20 oz. plastic drink bottle. You won't spend money on a throw bag/ball again! You can adjust the weight easily and they don't cost you anything. I've been using them for the past 7-8 years. You laugh! But, I'm not kidding! Try it, you'll like it. People get a kick out of it when they see me use it. It is kind of funny but you'll be amazed at how well they work. (Mountain Dew bottles are the strongest)
Timberhauler
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One clear advantage I can see is there would be no getting it tangled in stringy limbs...What do you do?...Tie like a clove hitch underneath the cap or something???...How do you throw it?..Using the string,or do you just chunk the bottle??....I've heard and tried many ideas.For the longest time I used three really big cross tie washers,they worked well,but had more of a tendancy to get hung on stuff...I like a 12 ounce ball for throwing and a 14 for shooting out of the big shot....I drink lots of Mountain Dew...Might as well put the bottles to use.
BostonBull
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I carry a 10 and a 12. Depends on the shot and the tree.
HurricaneHunter
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One clear advantage I can see is there would be no getting it tangled in stringy limbs...What do you do?...Tie like a clove hitch underneath the cap or something???...How do you throw it?..Using the string,or do you just chunk the bottle??....
A slip knot or any type of loop and put it below the lip that is below the cap. Use a pendulum motion and let 'er rip! With practice and finding the right fluid level, you can easily hit a limb 70' high.(I've thrown over the top of a 90' pine, no kidding)
A slip knot or any type of loop and put it below the lip that is below the cap. Use a pendulum motion and let 'er rip! With practice and finding the right fluid level, you can easily hit a limb 70' high.(I've thrown over the top of a 90' pine, no kidding)
diltree
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Hammer head...yikes, that could hurt
lawson's tree s
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i use a 14 0r 16 oz to throw by hand and a 10 oz for the big shot.
Timberhauler
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Hmmm..90 ft.?....I guess it's possible.One of my guys once got 85 with a 10 ounce throwball.
John Paul Sanborn
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I too like a 10 for most of my work, but keep a 12, 16 and 8 for where they work better.
Often I'm going into dense canopy where perfect crotches are hard to see, so I use a spagetti method....throw it up there and see what I can get. When doing this the heavier bags work better, since you get a lot of friction with all the small twigs. I've had problems with 12 oz bags running through in these trees.
Mostly I just use the 16 as the back end isolation bag.
Since the bags are only $10 reach, I keep several in the truck. Working over concrete the seems can burst if they hit hard, might get one caught in a tight crotch. I've even tied my slipknot wrong and launched a ball 3 doors down.
Often I'm going into dense canopy where perfect crotches are hard to see, so I use a spagetti method....throw it up there and see what I can get. When doing this the heavier bags work better, since you get a lot of friction with all the small twigs. I've had problems with 12 oz bags running through in these trees.
Mostly I just use the 16 as the back end isolation bag.
Since the bags are only $10 reach, I keep several in the truck. Working over concrete the seems can burst if they hit hard, might get one caught in a tight crotch. I've even tied my slipknot wrong and launched a ball 3 doors down.
Bermie
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10 oz is all I'm legally allowed to use...people run screaming from the area when I am seen with a roll of slingline and that little lead shot bag...shutters are drawn to protect the glass and hard hat signs sprout up half a mile away...
A collective sigh of relief is heard when I give over the bag to my groundies
A collective sigh of relief is heard when I give over the bag to my groundies
diltree
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I have an 8oz and a 10oz......I think the 8 goes up easier but that 10 comes down easier....with the laws of gravity I think that makes since
Grace Tree
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10 oz is all I'm legally allowed to use...people run screaming from the area when I am seen with a roll of slingline and that little lead shot bag...shutters are drawn to protect the glass and hard hat signs sprout up half a mile away...
A collective sigh of relief is heard when I give over the bag to my groundies
That's funny, Bermie.
Phil
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okietreedude1
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I think a lot depends on what kind of line your useing. If your using 1/8" slickline, a 10-12 is not going to do you much good. the line is too heavy to get pulled up very high. Youll need at least 14 oz.
On the other hand, if your using 1.75mm stuff, a 14 is too heavy. try a 10 (12 tops).
Personally, I use 2.2mm fling it w/ a 12oz bag. I have a 16oz on the other end for isolation use. I also carry extra 12's in case I need a heavier throwing end to do isolation w/, I can tie on two.
I like that pop bottle idea...might have to try it out sometime.
On the other hand, if your using 1.75mm stuff, a 14 is too heavy. try a 10 (12 tops).
Personally, I use 2.2mm fling it w/ a 12oz bag. I have a 16oz on the other end for isolation use. I also carry extra 12's in case I need a heavier throwing end to do isolation w/, I can tie on two.
I like that pop bottle idea...might have to try it out sometime.
John Paul Sanborn
Above average climber
Sounds great for isolation, much better then a set of pliers.
I think it would actually be good on messy trees with big limbs or rough bark.
I've got enough of them in the back of the pickup.
Oooo, there's anothr Redneck one for you... If the bed of your pickup can be mistaken for a dumpster...
Bermie
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Yup
...You think that's funny...last week, I finally get the bag over a nice branch, I was pulling it up to thread it down the other side of some smaller branches, it flipped up and around a tiny twig...STUCK, tried to push it out with the rake, got the rake STUCK, my groundie pushed both out with the pole saw. Pic attached:It's a sad state of affairs...
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BlueRidgeMark
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It's not?
Mine looks like one every few weeks when I make a run to the trash collection point! It's all in plastic bags, but it still looks like a dumpster.
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