Too much you tell me?

[ropensaddle]

I got a call from a repeat customer, first time was a month ago
he had a hickory split and left hanging and I cut it and hauled
for 350.00 it was 14" dbh! The tree I went to look at tonight
he freaked on the price but here is what I found large 42" dbh
pine cracked and twisted and leaning from splitting into smaller
trees. Tree is down a steep hill with no access everything will
have to be rolled or carried up hill landscape beds all up in the way.
I bid it saying tree unsafe for climbing so must be felled with some
damage to smaller tree to be expected cleaned up and hauled off
for 1750.00! Tree is a 100 foot tall will land in lake partially and then
have to be dragged up a thirtyfive degree hill approximately 175 feet
lifted and carried the last twenty feet through flowerbeds!

 

[treemandan]

I got a call from a repeat customer, first time was a month ago
he had a hickory split and left hanging and I cut it and hauled
for 350.00 it was 14" dbh! The tree I went to look at tonight
he freaked on the price but here is what I found large 42" dbh
pine cracked and twisted and leaning from splitting into smaller
trees. Tree is down a steep hill with no access everything will
have to be rolled or carried up hill landscape beds all up in the way.
I bid it saying tree unsafe for climbing so must be felled with some
damage to smaller tree to be expected cleaned up and hauled off
for 1750.00! Tree is a 100 foot tall will land in lake partially and then
have to be dragged up a thirtyfive degree hill approximately 175 feet
lifted and carried the last twenty feet through flowerbeds!

When he told you it was to much did he say it like" naw dat tow much! you cut tree do fo 5 dolla! I no pay dat much!"

 

[treemandan]

Well its something you can keep an eye on to see if he gets anyone to do it. I had some people give me that crap under the same senerio. They were supposed to get some farmers to do it but they turned and ran so after a year my buddy call me to show me the pictures of his nieghbors underinsured house and cars under a 125 foot tula popper.
By the time I got to see it all that was left was one of the cars after the farmers were able to cart of the trunk and roofing material and cinderblock and glass and other trees and propane tank... the car was for sale but you would need a trailer to get it home.

 

[treemandan]

Well its something you can keep an eye on to see if he gets anyone to do it. I had some people give me that crap under the same senerio. They were supposed to get some farmers to do it but they turned and ran so after a year my buddy call me to show me the pictures of his nieghbors underinsured house and cars under a 125 foot tula popper.
By the time I got to see it all that was left was one of the cars after the farmers were able to cart of the trunk and roofing material and cinderblock and glass and other trees and propane tank... the car was for sale but you would need a trailer to get it home.

I find when it come to this sort of stuff I am a little higher than most but right in the same ballpark.

 

[ropensaddle]

It leans away from the house he said for that money
he would let it fall. I said I can understand that but that I
had to cover my time and that the cleanup would be time consuming
and very labor intensive. I don't want it for less but I did tell him it
was estimated at 100 per hour and if I came out good the price was not
in stone. The place is a half a million dollar property but he can't afford
me sheessh!

 

[Blakesmaster]

"No haul" time? That's what I'd do. It might leave a mess but at least the danger aspect is taken away.

 

[ropensaddle]

"No haul" time? That's what I'd do. It might leave a mess but at least the danger aspect is taken away.

No haul he was not asking for! Time is the time and effort it will take to hump all those cookies up that hill. I get paid for my time don't you? Remember there is no access for any of my equipment so will be hauled with my 65 f 250 4+4 or my bass boat towed to the boat ramp area. I may have not conveyed the hill accurately enough for you to understand!

 

[Blakesmaster]

If he doesn't want to pay to have it removed and would rather it fall on it's own, I'd shoot for the compromise. Fall it and leave it.

 

[ropensaddle]

If he doesn't want to pay to have it removed and would rather it fall on it's own, I'd shoot for the compromise. Fall it and leave it.

If he had any interest other than being cheap, I may have suggested it.
If you seen it you would know it is a deal for the work involved and very
prone to chair and or stick a bar in with the radial twisting two inch crack.
So you go out cut and leave lay he would be expecting 200.00 most likely
and probably thought cleanup 500.00 he would have paid 700.00 maybe
for a 1750.00 tree! What if you go out to cut and leave lay for 200.00
and with the twist your bar hangs up and log rolls and lands on your 1000.00 saw? This tree is very prone to doing something of that nature or just bending a 100.00 bar from the twisting of the crack and everything being released. I have to make money and can not work hard for their entertainment.

 

[ClimbinArbor]

doesnt sound high to me...

that alot of log humping...

i like the boat idea though rope... why not drop it cut it into a few pieces and boat the whole thing out? pull it all to the tthe ramp where the grapple is waiting..... $1k?

he might go for that and itd be alot easier on ya.

you could even go for style points and with the red wool shirt and roll some logs while your at it lol

 

[Lawnmowerboy48]

175' uphill manually will flat out suck. Any companies in your area with a winch on their chipper that you could sub out to? then manually carry the material the last 20 feet through the flower beds. A good sized log loader should be able to grab them at 20 feet out. I am not sure of your area but talk to other companies that are mainly in the removal business and see what they have to say. I know up here if there was a boat hauling a log across the lake everyone and their uncles friend would be calling the police.

 

[ClimbinArbor]

175' uphill manually will flat out suck. Any companies in your area with a winch on their chipper that you could sub out to? then manually carry the material the last 20 feet through the flower beds. A good sized log loader should be able to grab them at 20 feet out. I am not sure of your area but talk to other companies that are mainly in the removal business and see what they have to say. I know up here if there was a boat hauling a log across the lake everyone and their uncles friend would be calling the police.

let em.....

 

[alanarbor]

Heck, $1750 sounds cheap to me.

 

[TDunk]

He'll probably find some moron to do for a couple hundred bucks, quit after the first day and never show up again because it turned out to be ALOT harder than he thought. Or ask the HO for some more money, to witch the HO's reply would be "no can do"

 

[mckeetree]

That is more than reasonable. I know there are areas where people don't want to or are conditioned to pay less or something. I was in Okla. a year ago picking up some parts for a dozer and this tree service was taking down a huge oak in the parking lot of the equipment co. I walked over and talked to the foreman a minute and found they were doing the stump and all for $975.00. I told him that was mighty cheap for that job and he said check around and you will see that is just the going rate around here. I would not have touched that job for under $3,500 and I bet that is about where I would be on that pine tree.

 

[ropensaddle]

175' uphill manually will flat out suck. Any companies in your area with a winch on their chipper that you could sub out to? then manually carry the material the last 20 feet through the flower beds. A good sized log loader should be able to grab them at 20 feet out. I am not sure of your area but talk to other companies that are mainly in the removal business and see what they have to say. I know up here if there was a boat hauling a log across the lake everyone and their uncles friend would be calling the police.

First, what part of no access do you not comprehend? I have
a winch on my bucket that will winch the tree whole! You would
not budge it with a chipper winch if you could get anywhere near
it! It is on the side of a mountain house half way down no room
for anything larger than a pickup. The pickup parking area is 175 foot
from the tree and around the corner so even if I could get my bucket
in, I would have to employ many snatch blocks and would tear up
more trees and landscape than my customers would allow! I also
thought of my tractor but it is not feasible French drains and steep
he has turned a riding tractor over twice! I told him the best way
would be with a helo but that he would have to add at least a zero

 

[ropensaddle]

That is more than reasonable. I know there are areas where people don't want to or are conditioned to pay less or something. I was in Okla. a year ago picking up some parts for a dozer and this tree service was taking down a huge oak in the parking lot of the equipment co. I walked over and talked to the foreman a minute and found they were doing the stump and all for $975.00. I told him that was mighty cheap for that job and he said check around and you will see that is just the going rate around here. I would not have touched that job for under $3,500 and I bet that is about where I would be on that pine tree.

This tree is definately worth that 3500.00 mark, I lived in Dallas
picture the largest cottonwood in height you have seen and straight
downhill with no way other than muscle to move it straight up hill!
I am not the highest but am mid to high in my area. Hot Springs is
different in size of trees in your area as well as steep ground that
is similar to the mountains in the west coast just not as high! It
stinks pay wise though.

 

[reachtreeservi]

Sounds pretty cheap to me , Rope.

I had a similar tree a few days ago.

65 ft. tall dead 28 "DBH tree leaning over a pond with limbs over a deck, steep uphill drag 125 feat to the road over an immaculate lawn.

Homeowner wants no damage to yard.
Tree will have to be climbed to keep it out of the water.
It's too dead to rig and lower off of.
There aren't any other other trees close enough to use.
No bucket or crane access.


I bid it $2500.00

She (Homeowner) told me I was crazy.

She said she could get it done for around 600.00

I told her good luck and be sure to check their insurance.

She told me she didn't care if they had insurance or not , just as long as the tree got cut and removed.

I told her " Thanks for having me come out and you can just throw my card away. Have a good evening. "

 

[treemandan]

This tree is definately worth that 3500.00 mark, I lived in Dallas
picture the largest cottonwood in height you have seen and straight
downhill with no way other than muscle to move it straight up hill!
I am not the highest but am mid to high in my area. Hot Springs is
different in size of trees in your area as well as steep ground that
is similar to the mountains in the west coast just not as high! It
stinks pay wise though.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to pay... dam thing gonna stay in the woods.

 

[treemandan]

Sounds pretty cheap to me , Rope.

I had a similar tree a few days ago.

65 ft. tall dead 28 "DBH tree leaning over a pond with limbs over a deck, steep uphill drag 125 feat to the road over an immaculate lawn.

Homeowner wants no damage to yard.
Tree will have to be climbed to keep it out of the water.
It's too dead to rig and lower off of.
There aren't any other other trees close enough to use.
No bucket or crane access.


I bid it $2500.00

She (Homeowner) told me I was crazy.

She said she could get it done for around 600.00

I told her good luck and be sure to check their insurance.

She told me she didn't care if they had insurance or not , just as long as the tree got cut and removed.

I told her " Thanks for having me come out and you can just throw my card away. Have a good evening. "

Keep an eye on that one to see who you find doing the job... chances are she ain't got nobody for 600 but if she did THAT is something I would like to see.
When I first started doing my own real bidding I was lost for a while and sometimes I still makes misjudgements BUT knowing what a misjudgement is going to cost now... I work real hard to make good judgements.