Transporting/Shipping

[BubbaG]

What is the going rate to have logs trucked to me. Is it typically quoted per mile?
I'm sure it depends on load size also right?
Is there an amount that typically below which it isn't worth the time?
How about 1000 board feet trucked 150 miles. I'm assuming the logger and the trucker are the same person so there's a little money into it for the logs as well (but that price is set). Just trying to see if it makes sense for me to go get em (several trips) or have them brought to me. Just lookin for your policy/pricing/thoughts.

Thanks

 

[northmanlogging]

Can you be a little more specific?

these logs you have located and want trucked to you?

Is it just a fire wood load.?

How big and what type of wood you lookin for?

If its just a 1000 bf just rent a car trailer cut em a 16' bring a farm jack and a come-a-long/wench, and get creative...

 

[madhatte]

If its just a 1000 bf just rent a car trailer cut em a 16' bring a farm jack and a come-a-long/wench, and get creative...

Like so:

Used a car hood and some 2x4's as a ramp to get the logs up to the level of the trailer itself. There's a 4-t winch on the tongue of that trailer. That's about 600 bf of Walnut, which was all that trailer would hold -- the springs were sagging and the self-levelers were almost on the ground. I drove slow.

 

[northmanlogging]

or get real crazy and build a gypo loader...

 

[redprospector]

or get real crazy and build a gypo loader...

If you're going to go to that much trouble...you might as well put a load on.

Andy

 

[slowp]

Perhaps a circus or zoo is nearby and you can borrow an elephant? You could also skid with an elephant.

Be sure to take pictures!

 

[2dogs]

Or so.

 

[northmanlogging]

Perhaps a circus or zoo is nearby and you can borrow an elephant? You could also skid with an elephant.

Be sure to take pictures!

you sure got a thing for elephants lately... there is a zoo in Seattle (no really its not just the whole area...) you could maybe "liberate" one and teach it to run a yarder while you're at it, then you'd have a yodderphant... don't know where yer gonna find a tin hat that big though...:msp_biggrin:

 

[hunter h]

It depends on the size log and location as to how easy to get to and what you have to hall them on but two guys with cant hooks and some ramps from the side of a low trailer you can move some logs Or you can do as shown above if you have a winch that you can move to the side.Chain hoist block and fall, comealong all work. As far as price on hauling I would say you are looking at at least a buck a mile.

 

[BubbaG]

This is why I'm asking.

30 minutes wrong direction to borrow a truck that can handle the weight. 30 minutes back home. Off to rental place for trailer (20 minutes)

Drive 150 miles (2.5 hours). Ok so I'm to the logs and 4 hours in +\-
Now load the logs. About. 16 logs 9 ft long, 14 inch diameter. Let's say 2 hours to load? Let's say the trailer can handle it...which it likely can't.....

Drive home (2.5 hours). Unload logs (1 hour). Return trailer ( 20 minutes). Return truck, return home (1 hour)

So all day (if I can do in one trip which I can't because even if the trailer can handle it , I couldn't stack em). Now let's compound the nonsense by dragging a buddy along.

$100 in gas, $70 rental, 2 meals for two guys plus 20+ man hours... Got me thinking about just hiring someone with the equipment and know how to just get it done and make a little cash as well. Soooooooo what's a fair rate. A buck a mile is a no brainer.

 

[q-tip jr]

my contract haulers (tractor + trailer) are getting $3.75 a loaded mile, I have to load them - only 1 self loading ten wheeler around I know of, rates are very similar, and minimum haul is $ 175.00 for the first 50 miles (or if it's only 3)

 

[northmanlogging]

16 9' logs... taint much and you would be talking several hundred minimum to have a self loader get em for ya, and they won't be happy about it.

just questimating the math here but you got anywhere from 2700# to 5800# depending on the species (oak maybe higher but I don't work oak and don't have the numbers...) most car trailers would handle that in two loads tops(feasibly one). One 9' log couldn't weigh more than 400# just tip em up end for end and toss em on the load, believe me I've done it, or parbuckle em on if'n your scared...
give yerself more like 6 hours to load by hand and another 3 to unload, better yet one whole day to load and haul, the next to unload and return everything. And add about $20. to that fuel bill.

when its all said and done a self loader is probably gonna run in the neighbor hood of $400+, so two days of not too bad labor, and $200. is a pretty good deal.

bring a peavy or cant hook two would be better, and lay down your tie down straps before you start to load that first log...

This can and has been done, so you can too... after the first couple of logs you'll figure out yer method and it will seem like child's play after that... (unless your really out of shape :rolleyes2: then it will just suck and keep suckin...)

 

[KeyStep]

A 1000 board feet is not much more than 2 full cords of logs. Very doubtful any logger/trucker would be interested for such a small load of logs (typical trucks around here handle 12 cords of logs or more. A better option would be to use a "tree service company" that cuts residential trees as they typically have a smaller trailer with a grapple and could handle your load of logs. It would still cost you some but likely a lot more reasonable and better than you doing it yourself. Keep in mind if something goes wrong with hauling back 9-10,000 lbs of logs on a 14K trailer you will be liable but hiring someone that has insurance protects you.