Tress hitch and slop in belay while gaffing

[John Paul Sanborn]

I've been having a groundy pull slack for me, but lately I've been doing a lot of climbing where I'm off by myself on the jobsite.

I wear a Master saddle, and I put a carbiner in the right bottom attachment loop, and ran the cord through that. then pull slack when the right leg is higher.

It seems much more convenient to pull the slack out every fer steps then using the system flopping around.

 

[Davidsinatree]

I wear a master 2 also, every time I have tried to clip into the nylon loops it throws my balance off. Its the seperation of the ropes. But there shouldnt be a balance problem on gaffs doing that. To this point I'v been clipping into the center D-ring.
I think a sliding D would really throw my balance off.:angel:

 

[NickfromWI]

I use the master II, as well. I clip the spliced end of my line into the middle/metal ring, and the friction hitch on the top right webbing loop. It might sound silly and crooked, but....

a) when hip thrusting, I want the pull to come from the middle, not the side
b) i don't like having 2 things clipped to the same place. it's too cluttered and I sometimes have trouble finding the tail of my rope to advance it
c)it works

I've spliced a piece of 1/4" Vectrus (Yale's vectran hollow braid, ABS 8000lbs) across the two bottom webbing attachement points, a la the butterfly. I've been using this for a little while, and kind of like it. I don't know if it will become my favorite way, simply for the fact that when weighted, it does not conform to "b" from above. I don't like that part. Maybe I need a spacer in there to keep things separated.

love
nick

Yeah, I know that splicing that strap onto those loops may not be in accordance with ANSI. I haven't found where it says that, though.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Originally posted by NickfromWI


Yeah, I know that splicing that strap onto those loops may not be in accordance with ANSI. I haven't found where it says that, though.

It would come under the approval for the saddle. The saddle itself, once modified, is no longer approved because it hasn't undergone the necsesary testing.

 

[NickfromWI]

but have I modified the saddle. It is as it was. On the butterfly, you have to remove something to put on the new one. I am just adding something....like adding a carabiner to connect the climbing line to the saddle...right?

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

I use a 3/2 VT. The other day, I asked a guy at work (young guy who climbs with tautline....Joe, if you reading this...Hi!) to pull slack for me while I headed up an oak to remove a broken limb. He said, "What, you don't see me asking for help when I go up a 70' tree...you guys need to grow some balls.

I gave a smart alleck comment and told him to get pullin...I think he said my chainsaw hit him on my way up.

I don't think there's a better way for pulling that slack out. I'm sure many of us have gone a little further up, little a bit more than a comfortable amount of slack accumulate in the rope. If there's someone around, have 'em pull!

love
nick

 

[mikecross23]

If I'm not using my Pantin, I pull the slack out after a few feet of slack has accumulated. Couple of quick tugs gets it then I pull myself up some more, hold myself up w/ left hand and pull slack out w/ right hand again. At a buck fifty it isn't very hard for me.

-Mike-

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
Mike's post is inflammatory and incorrect. Ignore it. As usual, Mike takes a kernel of information and twists it around into something completely different in order to create an argument.

WTF Brian?

Modifying a saddle would sure change it's approval. If you were an employer and did this modification to this saddle, then the climber got hurt because of the modification, you really don't feel there could be a legal problem for the employer?
Changing the attachment point is a major change. When the saddle is tested, it's tested at the attachment points, changing that could change everything.

I am in no way saying it is not just as safe or not better, just that it would change the intended use, and therefore it's approval by industry standards.

You sure can be a weenie sometimes.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I usually use a Pantin so I do not have slack in the rope very often. [/B]

Guess i was unclear, I' talking about gaffing up a spar using the climbing line as a belay.

Climb a ways, pull the slack before I trim sprouts out of the way...ect...