Turner Twist Pic!!!

[rahtreelimbs]

Anyone out there have a good detailed picture of the Turner Twist friction hitch?

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Do you guys find it better to trap the line coming from the bottom coil under the one coming from top one?

i've been playing under the theory of the line from the top coil getting trapped under the line from the bottom coil, thereby limiting tension to top coil?

 

[TREETX]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by trapping the coil.

I trap it like this. I have found that when it is trapped, the other "crossovers" are largely just aesthetic.

http://community-2.webtv.net/acutabovetree/RopesSplicingKnots/

see the XT hitch

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

i've kinda looked at this genre of knots as single line versions of mountaineering French Prusik / Kleimheist (top coil) with 'braids ' criss-crossing underneath (for more grip, but less pressure to top coils for easier movement?).

i have been playing with 'trapping' the line from the top coil underneath the line coming from the bottom of the top coil stack. These pix here, seem to show the bottom coil's line coming under the line coming off the top coil, the reverse of what i'm doing.

i was wondering if there where any safety, utility insights/ experiences with this differance.

i'm forever grateful to X-Man's pictures at that sight, guiding us through elevated levels of friction hitches for years.

Some Rock Climbing Friction Hitches

Thanx

 

[monkeypuzzle]

How about a Heddon knot. Read about but no see. For foot loop on DRT.

 

[Mahk]

Rocky;

Why two carabiners? Is that just to place the hitch a little farther away?

Mahk


I just saw your source at the top of the pic and realized it is not your system.

Big John--why two 'biners?

Maybe Daniel?

Thanks.

Mahk

 

[murphy4trees]

First.. the turner twist works fine without the fixie.... Though I've never used it, Big Jon and I were playing around today and he showed me system without the fixie...
Second... Jon did turn me on to using the seperate biners... The top biner holds the hitch and puley.... while the bottom one holds the eye and clips to saddle... Keeping the hitch on a seperate biner keeps it out of the way when unclipping/reclipping to the saddle or moving the eye to a new TIP, etc... Having the belly down on the bottom biner makes it a lot easier to handle...
So the two biners are highly recommended... Try it you'll like it!!!!!
Big Jon has been a great associate... he's helped me move quickly through the learning curve of progrssive climbing techniques (THANKS JOHN). I think Roachy has showed John a lot of this stuff... We're all just ripples in the pond.
John has further tweeked the set up since that last pic was taken.. He no longer uses the captive eye biner... I really loved my old small captive eye biner... It was real easy to handle.... That went through the chipper and its remains have gone to Tom D.'s collection