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I retired two and a half years ago after driving for Roadway express for eighteen years. Every one needs something to do even if they are retired, so last spring I went back to college. I always done my minor repairs on my equipment that I used around the house and place. So I took a twelve hour course on small engines. I started working on chainsaws not to supplement my income so much but as a hobby. Then I found this site about six months ago and started with page one and have read every post that had a title that I thought would be of interest to me and some that did not. I have learned a lot but I do not retain things well at my age so I printed the ones that I thought I would use and have two note books full. I thank every one for all the post, some are educational, some are interesting and some are not. All this being said to soften every one up. I know the opinion most every one has on poulan wildthings, but since I started working on saws my neighbors bring all there problems to me. The saw in question is hard to start (15 pulls). I have checked every thing I know to check and some things I don't know ( tank vent, new plug, gas in carb, gas in cylinder, checked fuel filter, choke on, choke off, use prime button, don't use prime button. Once you get it cranked it will usually start the next time without a lot of trouble. The only thing I found is the spark is yellow and some time I can not see it (I broke my neon tube tester and checked six places in town today and no one had one). It is very hard to pull for a small saw and will kick back sometimes. I took the fly wheel of and it has a built in key that had .002-.004 slack in it so when I put it back I moved it so the time would be retarded and it helped on the kick back. I have no way to test the coil. My question is should the coil be bad on a saw that probably has not been use over ten hours.
The other question is about an 021 stihl that another neighbor brought me in a bucket (good neighbor). The oiler had quit and his sons had dismantled it and then they were lost as what to do. I got ever thing back in the right place and found the problem. Some one had put the sprocket on and either had not put the wire that runs the pump back in the grove on the sprocket or the wire had got bent down so that it rubbed against the plastic case and rubbed a hole where the oil pump goes through the case and it pumps oil into the area behind the clutch. I fixed this with JB weld (I don't know how long this will work). Now it still want pump oil. As I said before I got it in a bucket and this is the first 021 I have seen. I put it back with the hole on the side where the hole is in the case and pushed it up until the end meshed with the plastic gear on the crank. The plastic fitting that comes out of the tank and fits over the end of the pump has a square opening so I am wandering if I did not get all of the parts (I have had to send him back a time or two to find parts). Any help would be appreciated. Tom P.S. I bought an 028 Stihl WB yesterday with a scored piston and wander if it would be economical to repair it.
 
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:dizzy: can't help on the 021 oiler but on the poulan 2 things spark should be blue next yes a caoil can fail but it is not the most common things next do a leak down test for air leaks in the crankcase/intake thats about the first thing to do in a saw.
 
tomdcoker said:
I retired two and a half years ago after driving for Roadway express for eighteen years. Every one needs something to do even if they are retired, so last spring I went back to college. I always done my minor repairs on my equipment that I used around the house and place. So I took a twelve hour course on small engines. I started working on chainsaws not to supplement my income so much but as a hobby. Then I found this site about six months ago and started with page one and have read every post that had a title that I thought would be of interest to me and some that did not. I have learned a lot but I do not retain things well at my age so I printed the ones that I thought I would use and have two note books full. I thank every one for all the post, some are educational, some are interesting and some are not. All this being said to soften every one up. I know the opinion most every one has on poulan wildthings, but since I started working on saws my neighbors bring all there problems to me. The saw in question is hard to start (15 pulls). I have checked every thing I know to check and some things I don't know ( tank vent, new plug, gas in carb, gas in cylinder, checked fuel filter, choke on, choke off, use prime button, don't use prime button. Once you get it cranked it will usually start the next time without a lot of trouble. The only thing I found is the spark is yellow and some time I can not see it (I broke my neon tube tester and checked six places in town today and no one had one). It is very hard to pull for a small saw and will kick back sometimes. I took the fly wheel of and it has a built in key that had .002-.004 slack in it so when I put it back I moved it so the time would be retarded and it helped on the kick back. I have no way to test the coil. My question is should the coil be bad on a saw that probably has not been use over ten hours.
The other question is about an 021 stihl that another neighbor brought me in a bucket (good neighbor). The oiler had quit and his sons had dismantled it and then they were lost as what to do. I got ever thing back in the right place and found the problem. Some one had put the sprocket on and either had not put the wire that runs the pump back in the grove on the sprocket or the wire had got bent down so that it rubbed against the plastic case and rubbed a hole where the oil pump goes through the case and it pumps oil into the area behind the clutch. I fixed this with JB weld (I don't know how long this will work). Now it still want pump oil. As I said before I got it in a bucket and this is the first 021 I have seen. I put it back with the hole on the side where the hole is in the case and pushed it up until the end meshed with the plastic gear on the crank. The plastic fitting that comes out of the tank and fits over the end of the pump has a square opening so I am wandering if I did not get all of the parts (I have had to send him back a time or two to find parts). Any help would be appreciated. Tom P.S. I bought an 028 Stihl WB yesterday with a scored piston and wander if it would be economical to repair it.
those poulan's if choked 1 pull to much they will lock up , kick back or turn over hard. take off choke as soon as it fires.
 
havvey said:
:dizzy: can't help on the 021 oiler but on the poulan 2 things spark should be blue next yes a caoil can fail but it is not the most common things next do a leak down test for air leaks in the crankcase/intake thats about the first thing to do in a saw.

It may not be the most common thing, but an air leak won't make a spark yellow. You may have a bad coil or plug.

Of course, you might also have an air leak. :D
 
A spark test from a Homelite service manual uses a sparkplug that is the same or similar type plug used in the saw. The electrode is removed. A wire about 18" long with an alligator clip on one end and the other end attached to the metal shell of the plug. Plug it into sparkplug boot, hook alligator clip to a good ground on the saw. They say that the plug with the electrode removed better simulates the ignition system firing the plug under compression. It takes a good spark to jump the 0.140" gap of the electrodeless plug.
 
028wb

I own an 028WB. I picked the saw up for a good price but didn't really know about the model-never had one. What I found in searching is that the saws have quite a following. Lots of folks love these saws. As for mine it is a sweet machine. No plans to go with a newer, lighter saw. Also, there are a lot of them around and used parts are easy to come by if you want to go the economical way. Put a post out for parts wanted. Also ebay but maybe more risky unless good feedback. You might be able to ball hone the cylinder if it's in good shape and just get a good piston and rings. There is a difference though the 028 super piston is 2mm bigger if memory serves so it won't fit an 028 WB jug. I read a post saying you can run a super jug and piston on a WB also it fits just fine. Maybe somebody can confirm that. If you do revive it tune the carb right away. Lot's of posts on how to do that. Good luck
 
The spark on the poulan is weak, assuming the gap is correct you should get a nice blue spark with the threads of the sparkplug grounded to the block. Try lightly sanding the metal faces of the coil that face against the flywheel to remove grease and rust. Set the coil to flywheel gap with 2 to 3 pieces of thin paper, tighten coil. Check that it doesn't make contact when it turns.
 

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