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nasah86

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hey, i'm new to this site so please excuse me if i don't use the correct lingo.

ok, i was cutting down this tree and i noticed that it had a red bark in it. i was wondering if this is the true color of the tree or if it has something to do with the stain in the center of the logs. hopefully these two pics i'm going to try to put down will help. ones of the logs and the other is of a leaf. dunno if that would help or not. well, i appreciate any help. thanx oh, pics taken with my cell phone, sorry about quality

~Nasah86

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thanx

thank you for the replies. this helped alot. also, does anyone know of a good site to go to, to find the kinds of trees. i know there's some sites out there just wondering what you guys would suggest. thanks for the feedback! =)

~Nasah86
 
Box Elder humm. Got to get some of that. Wow that looks nice. Is that a hardwood good for making tabletops and the like. Anybody got anything on that ?
 
dunno

i was looking up the things that you guys suggested but i don't know if thats what it is. you see, with the Box Elder, the leaves are serated, the one in the pic is a smooth edge. and the Hemlock i can't find it without needles. so yeah, just wondering if anyone else had something to throw out there.

~Nasah86
 
hemlock???

nasah86, not to put anyone down but I'm sorry you've been thrown off the trail with some of the suggestions in here but great job on figuring that out on your own! As for what kind of tree you have there, I have no idea because the photos would only partially load. My advice to you is to go to the library or bookstore and buy yourself a tree identification book. You don't need the huge encylopedia-sized set with all the trees around the globe. I personally use TREES by Allen J. Coombes, a smithsonian handbook which is detail oriented but in a very organized and easy to read way. It's under 1" thick with 300 pages and a waterproof cover.

Once you have your tree id book you will follow a key in the beginning which, by a process of elimination will have your tree identified in minutes and sometimes seconds. The first question you will be asked is if your tree is a conifer or a broadleaf. Yours is a broadleaf which makes me wonder why people are suggesting you have a hemlock which is a hands-down conifer...we work in alot of those here in the PNW. The next questions will ask if the leaves are opposite or alternate from each other on the stem, simple or compound. This will bring you to clear, colored photos of leaves to compare to yours! From there, you have your books detailed description of the suggested tree with many reference points, photos and remarks to compare to your tree. Maybe the best $20 I ever spent because I have impressed many a homeowner when I quickly broke down to them exactly what kind of tree they had, it's likes and dislikes, growth habits, etc.

As for the darker wood in the center there's a very simple explanation for that. I'm sorry your tree biology questions went unanswered. The darker area inside your stem is called heartwood. The lighter rings around it are called sapwood. Heartwood is no longer 'alive' in that it no longer conducts water/nutrients. It does help support the tree, however. Sapwood is still conducting, I think about 8 or 10 outer rings on a broadleaf and only 3 or 4 or so on a conifer, generally.

The reddish 'bark' you were running into was probably the cambium layer just under the bark which is the living part of the tree containing phloem and xylem; phloem carrying nutrients down mostly and xylem carrying water up mostly...anyway google this stuff or find an intro to arboriculture course in your area cause it's pretty interesting.

Hope this helps!
 
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Looks like box elder. One of the few trees I've seen completely topped and a few years later has good sized shoots growing out of the trunk. Hard to kill!! Always seem to clean alot of them up after a wind storm. They get huge around here-have taken down some monsters!
 
thank you gitrdun_climbr very much for the info. the last biology class i took was 3 yrs ago in highschool so this was a major help. i'll have to get that book you were talking about. thanks again ppl.

~Nasah86
 
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You're welcome nasah86, glad to help.

I can scarcely speculate what type of tree it is as I only saw partial photos but I always thought box elder had a colorful leaf and smoother bark. I know there are numerous varieties though. He should be able to chase it down with an identification guide.

We can't know all the answers but knowing how to find them is invaluable.
 
If those leaves are from that wood , I promise it's not a Hemlock.
 
There's a few different trees it could be, IF the 2 pics are from the same tree.

first is box elder, young leaves are sometimes not serrated. and young branchlets are sometimes not green colored. I'm leaning here due to wood color and large growth rings. Other trees with red/red tinged heartwod are slower growing.

second is pumpkin ash, not common, but not unheard of in Ohio
http://members.tripod.com/homedlc/ash05.html
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and third is sourwood, athough I've pretty much ruled that out due to absence of fruiting bodies that it should have this time of year, and bark texure. unfortunately, this pic is taken with a hickory in the background and is misleading.
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those are the only trees around here with red or red tinged wood.

The one thing I can be sure of is that better pics are needed. I can only partially load the 2 pics
-Ralph
 
thanx for the info guys. i hope to have a tree identification and pics posted monday afternoon/ evening depending on when i get off of work. thanx again =)

~Nasah86
 
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