Was felling some trees this AM

[Bad E]

And my neighbor who I have never met came up on his property on an ATV, was wondering what all the noise was. I was cutting some trees just over the stone wall that is our property line.I heard these big crashes and wondered what was going on , he said. Firewood is going on I told him.

After a lot of small talk he ask me if I would like to clear his 20 acres of all the blowdowns. Yes I would! was my reply. He is going to put a food plot for the deer and turkeys in my adjoining field this spring. Thats something I always wanted to do but never had the plow or the time. This mornings trip to the woodlot was very productive...even if I did'nt get much wood cut.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Are you goning to be able to keep the blowdown wood, or at least get paid for it? Blowdowns are often more work than their worth and more dangerous than standing timber.

Jeff

 

[Bad E]

Are you goning to be able to keep the blowdown wood, or at least get paid for it? Blowdowns are often more work than their worth and more dangerous than standing timber.

Jeff

I keep the wood for my labor alone. Not huge trees, alot of 10-16" maples. I would guess about 4-5 cords of firewood. Don't see the big danger, I have cut up blow downs many times before.

 

[cord arrow]

blowdowns.....

.....are the only thing i cut. i "clean up" for the farmers around here, & there's more blowdowns that i could ever keep up with. i feel very comfortable cutting them, but i've done so many.....

.....when it comes to falling, i can't fall a Christmas tree successfully.

 

[Bad E]

.....are the only thing i cut. i "clean up" for the farmers around here, & there's more blowdowns that i could ever keep up with. i feel very comfortable cutting them, but i've done so many.....

.....when it comes to falling, i can't fall a Christmas tree successfully.

I've been looking at all that wood ...just acrossed my property line all winter. I've been cutting up my own blowdowns this winter.Permission to clean up his land was just great news. I love to cut the wood and I can use it for heat.

 

[TimberPig]

There's a big difference between fresh blowdown, and blowdown that has been sitting down for a year or more. Fresh blowdown tends to have more stored forces in it to contend with, while older blowdown has lost some of these foreces stored in it. As such, fresh blowdown is more dangerous, due to a higher probability of encountering unpredicatable and dangerous forces in the wood. The orientation of the wood, multiple stems versus and a single tree also make a very big difference. A single tree that is laying right on the ground, is a very different animal to tackle than a twisted jackpot of trees that are hung up above the ground. It can all be dangerous, but older blowdown and single stems tend to be less so, as the forces are reduced and more predicatable.

 

[Justsaws]

Sounds like a good deal for the wood and the deer. I clean up almost exclusively dead trees and blowdowns. On my property which is small about a 1/4 of it was covered with a large domino effect blowdown. I am about half way done with the clean up and have probably two more years of firewood waiting. Tricky working sometimes but well worth the effort to see the cleaned up area. Had more than one trunk split apart while cutting and more than one tree tried to stand back up. One of the re-standers is now a bower of suckers and an odd landscape focal point. Cleaning up blowdown areas is why I bought saw pants even though I had chaps, the chaps kept getting hung up on the moving pile. Good luck, remember to where a cup.:greenchainsaw: Darn trees start to kick when they are bent over. I do not think my neighbors appreciate my chainsaw festivities.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

There's a big difference between fresh blowdown, and blowdown that has been sitting down for a year or more. Fresh blowdown tends to have more stored forces in it to contend with, while older blowdown has lost some of these foreces stored in it. As such, fresh blowdown is more dangerous, due to a higher probability of encountering unpredicatable and dangerous forces in the wood. The orientation of the wood, multiple stems versus and a single tree also make a very big difference. A single tree that is laying right on the ground, is a very different animal to tackle than a twisted jackpot of trees that are hung up above the ground. It can all be dangerous, but older blowdown and single stems tend to be less so, as the forces are reduced and more predicatable.

That's what I meant to say...

 

[Bad E]

There's a big difference between fresh blowdown, and blowdown that has been sitting down for a year or more. Fresh blowdown tends to have more stored forces in it to contend with, while older blowdown has lost some of these foreces stored in it. As such, fresh blowdown is more dangerous, due to a higher probability of encountering unpredicatable and dangerous forces in the wood. The orientation of the wood, multiple stems versus and a single tree also make a very big difference. A single tree that is laying right on the ground, is a very different animal to tackle than a twisted jackpot of trees that are hung up above the ground. It can all be dangerous, but older blowdown and single stems tend to be less so, as the forces are reduced and more predicatable.

These are more single trees, two year old blowdowns not crossed or tangled.Fairly open area. But as with all chainsaw/tree cutting...it all deserves your complete attention and respect.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Good start on an adjacent property. Treat it like it was your own and keep the main trails open and free of debris.
It could land you a full time job starting with pre commercial thinning.
Start with the notion that forestry is wildlife, recreation and asthetics as well as bio diversity.
Keep all those buzzwords in mind and you can ballyhoo with the most educated of them all.
Once you've done the blowdowns, I bet he will let you take out the low grade even if you have to get a forester to do the marking.
Regardless, it's nice to sit back and watch a forest grow, especially a well managed one.
John




My Piney Wood

I have a tiny piney wood;
my trees are only fifty,
Yet give me shade and solitude
For they are thick and thrifty.
And every day to me they fling
With largess undenying,
Fat cones to make my kettle sing
And keep my pan a-frying.

Go buy yourself a piney wood
If you have gold for spending,
Where you can dream in mellow mood
With peace and joy unending;
Where you can cheerfully retreat
Beyond all churchly chiding,
And make yourself a temple sweet
Of rapturous abiding.

Oh silence has a secret voice
That claims the soul for portal,
And those who hear it may rejoice
Since they are more than mortal.
So sitting in my piney wood
When soft the owl is winging,
As still as Druid stone I brood . . .
For hark! the stars are singing.



--- Robert Service

 

[Bad E]

Good start on an adjacent property. Treat it like it was your own and keep the main trails open and free of debris.
It could land you a full time job starting with pre commercial thinning.
Start with the notion that forestry is wildlife, recreation and asthetics as well as bio diversity.
Keep all those buzzwords in mind and you can ballyhoo with the most educated of them all.
Once you've done the blowdowns, I bet he will let you take out the low grade even if you have to get a forester to do the marking.
Regardless, it's nice to sit back and watch a forest grow, especially a well managed one.
John




My Piney Wood

I have a tiny piney wood;
my trees are only fifty,
Yet give me shade and solitude
For they are thick and thrifty.
And every day to me they fling
With largess undenying,
Fat cones to make my kettle sing
And keep my pan a-frying.

Go buy yourself a piney wood
If you have gold for spending,
Where you can dream in mellow mood
With peace and joy unending;
Where you can cheerfully retreat
Beyond all churchly chiding,
And make yourself a temple sweet
Of rapturous abiding.

Oh silence has a secret voice
That claims the soul for portal,
And those who hear it may rejoice
Since they are more than mortal.
So sitting in my piney wood
When soft the owl is winging,
As still as Druid stone I brood . . .
For hark! the stars are singing.



--- Robert Service