Please help ID an older Stihl

[backwoodsman]

Hi there. Just picked up an older Stihl off marketplace and can’t find any identification on it. Wondering if anyone out there can help me out. Thanks in advance!
Nick

 

[Bill G]

That is no Stihl

 

[backwoodsman]

Uh oh

 

[ray benson]

Looks like a Solo 650va - guy on another forum showed pic and says made 1969

 

[Bill G]

I believe Ray has nailed it. I was thinking Olympik but Mikes site does not have many pics . I completely forgot about Solo

 

[backwoodsman]

Amazing! Thanks guys! Now some research to do…

 

[Bill G]

Ray was as spot on as possible with his ID. I do caution you though as companies re-use model numbers and alter them a bit. If you go searching for parts please be aware that Solo recycled the model number 650 and built a modern saw that shares zero similarity. I just do not want you to order parts for the wrong saw.
Here is info
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.n...a6c6ff5002fa10c288256b5e00190c62?OpenDocument
ww.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/90bde4224fff977588256d5b006528ce?OpenDocument


http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.n...90bde4224fff977588256d5b006528ce?OpenDocument

 

[cbfarmall]

Solo made a few saws that look exactly like this: 650, 655 and 660. Only way to know that I am aware of is to measure the bore and stroke.

 

[ballisticdoughnut]

Uh oh

I wouldn’t worry, solo makes a quality saw.

 

[Bill G]

I wouldn’t worry, solo makes a quality saw.

Not doubting that but some might compare it to a person seeing an add for a Corvette only to arrive and find a Corvair. I once drove a ton of miles to look at at a "big ole Stihl with a 5 foot bar" It was a 036 with a 32"........I bought it anyway

 

[ballisticdoughnut]

Not doubting that but some might compare it to a person seeing an add for a Corvette only to arrive and find a Corvair. I once drove a ton of miles to look at at a "big ole Stihl with a 5 foot bar" It was a 036 with a 32"........I bought it anyway

Good point. And yeah, I would have bought that 036 as well. Wouldn’t wanna drive all that way just to leave empty handed lol.

 

[backwoodsman]

Not doubting that but some might compare it to a person seeing an add for a Corvette only to arrive and find a Corvair. I once drove a ton of miles to look at at a "big ole Stihl with a 5 foot bar" It was a 036 with a 32"........I bought it anyway

Fortunately it was just around the corner. It has nothing written on it and from my internet perusing it looked like the chain cover/oiler was 090ish or S-10ish so I thought it was some vintage Stihl. The guy who sold it thought it was a Stihl too… I’d never even heard of Solo! I bought it as a milling saw but I have a couple of Husky 480CDs and an 066 with more displacement that might be better? Anyways, brought it home, apologized to my wife, it fired right up, looks complete and super clean plus the chain is basically brand new. It was $100

Ray was as spot on as possible with his ID. I do caution you though as companies re-use model numbers and alter them a bit. If you go searching for parts please be aware that Solo recycled the model number 650 and built a modern saw that shares zero similarity. I just do not want you to order parts for the wrong saw.
Here is info
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.n...a6c6ff5002fa10c288256b5e00190c62?OpenDocument
ww.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/90bde4224fff977588256d5b006528ce?OpenDocument


http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.n...90bde4224fff977588256d5b006528ce?OpenDocument

Thanks for the spec sheets, Bill! The 25:1 oil ratio woulda got me… all the other saws I have are 40:1. Fortunately I started it with the gas in it and she sure is smokey!
I think as far as parts go it looks complete; the rubber av mounts all look good, there’s a bent dog and the wrap handle has been secured with hose clamps… it looks steel and I think I’ll weld it.

Looks like a Solo 650va - guy on another forum showed pic and says made 1969

Thanks again for the quick ID, Ray! Seems as if they were made next door to the Stihl factory in Germany.

 

[Bill G]

.................... Anyways, brought it home, apologized to my wife, it fired right up, ......................

I did that many times. After in excessive of 1000 saws, I cut back to about 600 but she gave up on me and left, Keep apologizing or do a better job of hiding

 

[Woodslasher]

As I recall, a full wrap version of those saws is pretty rare. I'll tag @av8or3 because he likes these (I think).

 

[av8or3]

As I recall, a full wrap version of those saws is pretty rare. I'll tag @av8or3 because he likes these (I think).

I do have two in that series. The 620 and the 655. Very pretty saws. Was an effort by Solo to “sectionalize” their product to make repair simpler. Fuel, engine, exhaust, AV’s and so on. I ran the 620VA, (50cc). It cuts like you’d expect a 50cc saw to cut, nice AV’s but it weighs as much as the 70cc saw in that line which is a bunch. I bet it weighs 22lbs dry. Never seen a 650. Pretty cool. Oh, +1 on the rarity of the full wrap.

 

[pimpolho]

Can anyone confirm the 25:1 mixture?...is this normal?

 

[av8or3]

It was when it was made. If it were mine I’d run 40:1 using my favored brand of oil. I only run 24:1 in really old saws and they might even be ok on less oil than that but it’s cheap insurance.

 

[pimpolho]

It was when it was made. If it were mine I’d run 40:1 using my favored brand of oil. I only run 24:1 in really old saws and they might even be ok on less oil than that but it’s cheap insurance.

Wont it make the piston to stick by lack of lube?

 

[thompsoncustom]

Wont it make the piston to stick by lack of lube?

I believe the old 25:1 ratio was for when they were using straight 30w motor oil and the newer oil can be ran thinner. I prefer 32:1 even with 2 stroke oil but 40:1 shouldn't hurt it either.