Jonsered 2083 Vs dolmar Makita 7900

[Herto]

I'm looking at light alternatives to a 372.
I can get a 2083 or 7900?

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Couldnt pick two more "hard basket" saws if you tried.
Makita have dropped gas powered outdoor equipment and genuine parts will get harder to find, Jonsered 2083 might be considered "old school" now and parts are already hard to come by- piston you are just about going to have to make Stihl 066 fit to replace a worn one- cylinders are only available secondhand really.

Personally- I would opt for the 7900 over the 2083 without even having to think- if I had to choose between those two and I am a die hard Jonsered fan!

Oh and if it happens to be a 2083 Mk2- then it is really just a 2077.

 

[Herto]

Couldnt pick two more "hard basket" saws if you tried.
Makita have dropped gas powered outdoor equipment and genuine parts will get harder to find, Jonsered 2083 might be considered "old school" now and parts are already hard to come by- piston you are just about going to have to make Stihl 066 fit to replace a worn one- cylinders are only available secondhand really.

Personally- I would opt for the 7900 over the 2083 without even having to think- if I had to choose between those two and I am a die hard Jonsered fan!

Oh and if it happens to be a 2083 Mk2- then it is really just a 2077.

Thanks Bob, great well informed reply.
I'll tell you my situation.
I can get a never ending supply of light 40cc (brashing/limbing) and 60cc (firewood) saws used for cheap.
I'm hoping to have one saw for felling and bigger cuts. The 2083 and 7900 are both about the same weight as a 272 or 372.
The 2083 I can get is £180 but needs some av mounts and work on the chain brake. The 7900 is about £400.
I don't do many hours, so whatever I get would last me for years or decades.
Shall I just go for a 372, for parts availability, and keep my eye out for a 80/90cc saw for the right price later?
I don't want a more modern saw.
Thanks

 

[Herto]

Thanks Bob, great well informed reply.
I'll tell you my situation.
I can get a never ending supply of light 40cc (brashing/limbing) and 60cc (firewood) saws used for cheap.
I'm hoping to have one saw for felling and bigger cuts. The 2083 and 7900 are both about the same weight as a 272 or 372.
The 2083 I can get is £180 but needs some av mounts and work on the chain brake. The 7900 is about £400.
I don't do many hours, so whatever I get would last me for years or decades.
Shall I just go for a 372, for parts availability, and keep my eye out for a 80/90cc saw for the right price later?
I don't want a more modern saw.
Thanks

I can also get a clean 2077 for £200, i thought I might get the 2083 and the 2077, cylinder swap and keep the worse one for parts

 

[2StrokeFondler]

I can get a never ending supply of light 40cc (brashing/limbing) and 60cc (firewood) saws used for cheap.

Get a dozen, fix them, sell them, buy a 80cc saw where spare parts are still available.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Parts wise I would lean toward 7900. Handling 7900. Weight 7900.

I've owned many of the Partner made jred and poulans in 83cc. I would compare them close to 385 and 064. Tested all 3 one day with friend with 24" buried hardwoods.

I sold my 385 because I could do everything it did with the lighter 83cc 2083 505.

Parts getting harder and harder to find on the 2083 505 etc. I have sold out of almost all my NOS parts and few used left now.

Here is some PHO weight dry of the 2.

 

[Herto]

Get a dozen, fix them, sell them, buy a 80cc saw where spare parts are still available.

I'm definitely keen. I can do the repairs, but not so good at the selling.

 

[Herto]

Parts wise I would lean toward 7900. Handling 7900. Weight 7900.

I've owned many of the Partner made jred and poulans in 83cc. I would compare them close to 385 and 064. Tested all 3 one day with friend with 24" buried hardwoods.

I sold my 385 because I could do everything it did with the lighter 83cc 2083 505.

Parts getting harder and harder to find on the 2083 505 etc. I have sold out of almost all my NOS parts and few used left now.

Here is some PHO weight dry of the 2.

Thanks this is just the kind of info I'm looking for.

sold my 385 because I could do everything it did with the lighter 83cc 2083 505.

This is exactly what I've been thinking, and the other way, being not much heavier than a 372, just skip the 70cc saws and have one big saw

 

[J D]

I can do the repairs, but not so good at the selling.

I expect you'll fit in well with the rest of us here then

 

[2StrokeFondler]

I'm definitely keen. I can do the repairs, but not so good at the selling.

I feel you. I too like fixing stuff better than selling stuff
I just put stuff on evilbay and see what happens.

 

[Herto]

I expect you'll fit in well with the rest of us here then

Great!

 

[Herto]

I feel you. I too like fixing stuff better than selling stuff
I just put stuff on evilbay and see what happens.

Thanks, I'll try and get a couple listed this month, and a couple more on the bench

 

[Herto]

Power difference between the two? On paper the 7900 has more, which can't be right.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Power difference between the two? On paper the 7900 has more, which can't be right.

Why can't it be?

 

[Herto]

Why can't it be?

I guess, not can't, just seems unlikely. Just the extra 3cc of the jred.
I may be wrong, but it seems that the newer style saws are more optimised, higher revving with a narrower power band, getting more out of less, like the modern turbo petrol cars etc.
Does the 7900 have more power across the range? Or just at specific optimised peak.
It seems to me that the older saws, although rated lower hold up better across the range.
What about lifespan of the saw?
I guess that's the other area that can be traded off for more power.

 

[Herto]

Why can't it be?

I guess I should be asking, how does the 7900 make .3hp more at nearly 4cc less and a pound less in weight?
Based on specs on paper that seems well beyond any improvements Stihl or Husky have made since the 90s