What brand outlast?

[sean donato]

The loggers I've known pick saws that are light, best antivibration, fast, reliability and good service support in their area. My dad ran mac until they weren't available then switched to Stihl, Husky's or Sach. A lot of his saws he had ported and recertified. But his brand choice was the saw manufacture that had the best innovation. Anything that helped get the timber on the ground because he got paid by scale. Any help that conserved energy and time is where he put his money. Pride and brand loyalty shouldn't get in the way of making a living. It's hard to say which brand was more reliable he was hard on his saws. replaced them every two years, the last saw was the backup saw. Mac 125super Pro was the most reliable saw he ran, he ran that saw 4 years then gave it to logger as a landing saw and I think he ran it two more years. My dad told me he thinks 125 super pro helped put Mac out business... dam good saw. But a sharp properly tensioned chain and letting the saw cool down a bit after a long cut will improve reliability.

thays how my logging buddy has been. Just never into macs, stihl in the early days then switched over to husqy at some point. He's all about bang for your buck, and what lasts.

 

[Shawn39]

I had better luck with the STIHL saws rather than Husky, Husky seems better made at 72 cc and up . I used to have all Husky saws and I tired of them.

Ya I have been looking at the 462 and 572.
Things I like and dislike about both

 

[Shawn39]

I had better luck with the STIHL saws rather than Husky, Husky seems better made at 72 cc and up . I used to have all Husky saws and I tired of them.

From all I have read and info I have gathered says the husky has more torque and can full a longer bar better and has a better oiler for a 24” Bar. But I sure like the weight and nimble of the 462

 

[Shawn39]

One thing I definitely do not like about Husky is the ignition/wiring system.

What is wrong with it? Are you speaking of modern saw like the 572?

 

[Bill G]

What is wrong with it? Are you speaking of modern saw like the 572?

Never worked on a 572 so I am not aware of their system but if it is like a 272/372 then I do not like it

 

[lloyd786]

You are the one that said they would not let you demo a saw.
That is on you and there is no reason for a foul mouth.
I wonder if your mouth is why they do not let you demo saws
I have never been told no.


You carry on

The manager at my local tractor supply store let me demo a couple saws I ended up buying. When I bought my 2172 the guy who owned the shop let me make a couple cuts first too. He went out of business a few years ago.

 

[slowp]

Let me see, I ran a Mac in 1981 on a thinning crew. Started waking up in the mornings with my left hand curled up. Thinning crew ended because marking and cruising season began. A few years later, I bought an 032, which is still alive and now residing in CA. Then, later on, ran a 440 at work and liked it and it seemed to weigh less than the 032 and definitely had more oomph than the 032. I wanted one.

I just went by weight, oomph, and the dealer folks. Also, they had a kind of secret sale going on to get rid of the 440s as that model was being discontinued and they apparently had boxes and boxes of those. One was bought for work and then I returned and bought one for ........cutting firewood and stuff. The news of the sekrit sale was spread by word of mouth--no advertising.

What I saw in the woods was that the 660? with a 32 inch bar was the most common saw used by the fallers. The 440 or 660 was common on the landing. My neighbor who was semi-retired from logging and a hell of an old growth faller said that a 440 was fine to use for falling timber until you got into a situation and needed a lot of power in a hurry and then it was too small.

Never saw any yellow saws used professionally when I started inspecting timber sales and I can't recall ever seeing a Dolmar out. It was probably 75% Stihl and the rest Huskies, and a few Feller Bunchers.

There!

A hooktender cutting a tree for rigging up. Hence the high stump.

A faller in slash falling trees needed for landing construction.

 

[Bill G]

The manager at my local tractor supply store let me demo a couple saws I ended up buying. When I bought my 2172 the guy who owned the shop let me make a couple cuts first too. He went out of business a few years ago.

Any servicing dealer here will let you demo a saw. I guess maybe some just come to kick tires but those folks are weeded out quickly

 

[ElevatorGuy]

I love how smart and experienced 18 year ols are with EVERY type and size saw. THEY KNOW!! And they've bought things so THEY KNOW!!!
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He’s a loser just like Oliver YouTube superstar. Click on my videos, Like them and subscribe to my sh*t content so I get paid!

 

[sean donato]

What is wrong with it? Are you speaking of modern saw like the 572?

Bill doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, like normal it's a saw he's never even had his hands or eyes on.

 

[Hermio]

At the Paul Bunyan show in Ohio, both Husqvarna and Stihl had booths set up where people could demo their saws.

 

[Bill G]

Bill doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, like normal it's a saw he's never even had his hands or eyes on.

Sean,
Apparently you missed what I clearly said.

Never worked on a 572 so I am not aware of their system but if it is like a 272/372 then I do not like it

Can you show where I made a single comment for or against the saw?

 

[Bill G]

At the Paul Bunyan show in Ohio, both Husqvarna and Stihl had booths set up where people could demo their saws.

I can remember many years ago going to shows that had 6 different saw companies at them.
Those were good days.

 

[Exophysical]

For what its worth, in my corner of the world, the Husqvarna 365 in all its versions has been the industry standard for over 20 years. I'm not strictly talking about loggers, who dont actually use chainsaws for felling very much any more up here... we are talking about oil companies, mills, pipeline/ power line maintenance, surveyors, seismic crews, slashers, private and government forestry service... you name it. Basically, if your running a company saw up here, chances are its some sort of 365.

It probably wouldnt be the faller's weapon of choice, but since we're talking longevity, a slightly detuned jug on a '72 bottom end has one hell of a track record. Just my observations.

 

[Exophysical]

There is none in my local area but in the city there is some smaller Shaw shops I buy from.

If you can, wait until they go on sale in the spring and hit up Small Power in Barhead. That place moves a ton of saws for various industry and their pricing cant be beat. I picked up a Hursqvarna 565 for $860 last month, 28" bar with a Stihl chain include. The 562's were a bit less, tough choice but like I said, the down tuned '72 has always been a tough saw, while the 562 is currently trying to live down its particular track record. Stihl never does seem to compete with Husky in the sale department up here, but a buddy just got a 500i and saved a bunch of money going through Small Power.

 

[LuDookie]

For what its worth, in my corner of the world, the Husqvarna 365 in all its versions has been the industry standard for over 20 years. I'm not strictly talking about loggers, who dont actually use chainsaws for felling very much any more up here... we are talking about oil companies, mills, pipeline/ power line maintenance, surveyors, seismic crews, slashers, private and government forestry service... you name it. Basically, if your running a company saw up here, chances are its some sort of 365.

It probably wouldnt be the faller's weapon of choice, but since we're talking longevity, a slightly detuned jug on a '72 bottom end has one hell of a track record. Just my observations.

Husqy made a few de-tuned 3 series saws that seem to last really well, like the 353 and 357. Those models were built simple and very well. But even the xp models back then could last really well.

 

[Exophysical]

Husqy made a few de-tuned 3 series saws that seem to last really well, like the 353 and 357. Those models were built simple and very well. But even the xp models back then could last really well.

In a decade or so I'll let you know if I think that trend extends to the 5XX series. My own suspicion is that it does as the early 562's were famously problematic, while I've never heard much for complaints about the 555. The lack of crank stuffers on its own seems like it would result in better crank bearing lubrication.

 

[LuDookie]

In a decade or so I'll let you know if I think that trend extends to the 5XX series. My own suspicion is that it does as the early 562's were famously problematic, while I've never heard much for complaints about the 555. The lack of crank stuffers on its own seems like it would result in better crank bearing lubrication.

I’ve owned a couple 550’s and used them commercially. They lasted as good as any other saw but being used the way they were, no saw will last more than a couple of years. I was in the cutting business, not the rebuilding saws business. But those same saws should last decades in seasonal duty. The longest lasting, hardest wearing saw I run is an Echo CS670 from 2007. Hard to kill a saw built like that.

 

[Exophysical]

I’ve owned a couple 550’s and used them commercially. They lasted as good as any other saw but being used the way they were, no saw will last more than a couple of years. I was in the cutting business, not the rebuilding saws business. But those same saws should last decades in seasonal duty. The longest lasting, hardest wearing saw I run is an Echo CS670 from 2007. Hard to kill a saw built like that.

My own feeling on any of the 50cc saws I've run, is that without special consideration and a little babying you could probably burn any of them up fairly quickly with steady use. You can correct me if I'm wrong on that, and I admit this is probably because I've mostly run 365's and 372's. They are overkill for much of what I do but they never feel like they are struggling. In my particular application you don't need to worry about what bar/ chain you run, you don't need to worry about the finer points of filing and raker height, and you don't often need to worry about pushing them too hard. By comparison the 50's often feel like I have them running on the edge of their capabilities, but maybe that's just me.

 

[sean donato]

In a decade or so I'll let you know if I think that trend extends to the 5XX series. My own suspicion is that it does as the early 562's were famously problematic, while I've never heard much for complaints about the 555. The lack of crank stuffers on its own seems like it would result in better crank bearing lubrication.

The 555 got all the same case and bearing updates as the 562xp. I suspect sales numbers were just not nearly as high, so the issues wernt as well heard about.