The Oregon File Guide modded for square filing

24d · Jun 1, 2008

I started with this guide because They have so much adjustment, you can move the chain left to right, back and forth and rotate the file guide 360 degrees on both vertical and horizonal axis' move it up down even the stop is adjustable. Plus they are everywhere.

Haywire Haywood · Jun 1, 2008

What did you mod?

Ian

dancan · Jun 1, 2008

It' obvious from the pictures , it now uses no file . :laugh:

24d · Jun 1, 2008

Only problem is, It won't accept a sq file, so I modfied it to hold the sq file and spin it 360 degrees. There is no angle it can't hold a file.

dancan · Jun 1, 2008

dancan said:
It' obvious from the pictures , it now uses no file .

You see ,I was correct for once

(well almost the mod is in the picture part) .
Nice job and good thinking 24d.

super3 · Jun 1, 2008

Trick

Nice work!

brncreeper · Jun 1, 2008

Looks good! :clap:

Jacob J. · Jun 1, 2008

Larry- that looks real good, although if you want really crisp edges on your square chain you'll need to turn the file around so it's going down into the tooth.

24d · Jun 2, 2008

Jacob J. said:
Larry- that looks real good, although if you want really crisp edges on your square chain you'll need to turn the file around so it's going down into the tooth.

Thanks pal! I just thew it up thr and snaped a few pic, I hadn't even tightened the bolts yet.

Thanks agin

HolmenTree · Jun 2, 2008

You can still use the factory file guide setup with the 3 corner chisel bit file,by putting a 1/2" piece of fuel line on both ends of the file to hold it in place in the round holders.

Great modification you did there for the flat double bevel file.

24d · Jun 4, 2008

046 said:
I'd like to have a set too... if you had a few made up. loads of us would be interested..

I could have it done BUT, anybody can take these pictures and have them done at their local machine shop these are the parts and this is them installed.

It would be a far better idea if one of our sponsers, or Sthil, Oregon, Carlton ect ect. would take this idea and mass produce it, I'm sure they could do it for a 10th of what I can do it for and make a nicer job of it (it would be nice to have degree markes on the part that holds the file). It's two parts and everyone would need two of each plus the fact their is so many of these guides out there, just seems like a good idea to me.

Mr. said:
It's not Oregon, but I have a buddy that owns a company that does ALOT of government contracts. He has 4 Mityuno (???) workstations. The CNC mills with 5 stations in them. Real production pieces.

He could tell us the brass tacks on cost.

Fred

Fred, if you or anyone else can come up with a plan to mass produce this, just let me know and I'll send it to you too check out.

Later,

046 · Jun 4, 2008

any dimensions?

24d said:
I could have it done BUT, anybody can take these pictures and have them done at their local machine shop these are the parts and this is them installed.

It would be a far better idea if one of our sponsers, or Sthil, Oregon, Carlton ect ect. would take this idea and mass produce it, I'm sure they could do it for a 10th of what I can do it for and make a nicer job of it (it would be nice to have degree markes on the part that holds the file). It's two parts and everyone would need two of each plus the fact their is so many of these guides out there, just seems like a good idea to me.

Fred, if you or anyone else can come up with a plan to mass produce this, just let me know and I'll send it to you too check out.

Later,

24d · Jun 4, 2008

046 said:
any dimensions?

It's pretty much just like the one that is on the guide from the factory, just a round hole instead of a little slot, then a cylinder with a slot to hold the file. I took the factory peice and a file to my friend Mike Buck and in just a few minutes we had the parts drawn out on the computer (I'll try to get a print out of those drawings). But with this basic idea, I think anyone with machinist skills could quickly make a set for any guide, Oregon, Nygran, Stihl, Granberg ect ect.

Tzed250 · Jun 4, 2008

24d said:
It's pretty much just like the one that is on the guide from the factory, just a round hole instead of a little slot, then a cylinder with a slot to hold the file. I took the factory peice and a file to my friend Mike Buck and in just a few minutes we had the parts drawn out on the computer (I'll try to get a print out of those drawings). But with this basic idea, I think anyone with machinist skills could quickly make a set for any guide, Oregon, Nygran, Stihl, Granberg ect ect.

Were the parts made on a wire EDM machine?

24d · Jun 5, 2008

Tzed250 said:
Were the parts made on a wire EDM machine?

No, they were cut out with a water jet, then the round part was machined a little, then it was drilled and tapped for the six screws. not a big deal and it could be done cheaper I'm sure (the water jet burnt my @$$ up!) I do have the program in the machines, but just for the water jet part it be round $100.00.

As a side note, the 1st one I ever saw converted this way had a peice of flat bar with 3 holes drilled in it (one for the top bar, one for the sq bar, then one to hold/clamp the peice the file goes in) and a short peice of round tubing with a set screw in it to spin/hold the file.

Later,

Tzed250 · Jun 5, 2008

24d said:
No, they were cut out with a water jet, then the round part was machined a little, then it was drilled and tapped for the six screws. not a big deal and it could be done cheaper I'm sure (the water jet burnt my @$$ up!) I do have the program in the machines, but just for the water jet part it be round $100.00.

As a side note, the 1st one I ever saw converted this way had a peice of flat bar with 3 holes drilled in it (one for the top bar, one for the sq bar, then one to hold/clamp the peice the file goes in) and a short peice of round tubing with a set screw in it to spin/hold the file.

Later,

I can lease a water jet for $55.00/hr.

What was the cycle time on the parts?

24d · Jun 5, 2008

Tzed250 said:
I can lease a water jet for $55.00/hr.

What was the cycle time on the parts?

I wasn't there Mike and I drew up the parts dropped off the drawings, then came back and got the parts, so I don't know, but I'm thinking you could cut out alot more than two in an hr and the materal cost is almost 0.

Later,

PS = JFYI The only thing I'v seen that I'd change about it so far is I'd make the slot that holds the file have a V in it like the factory one, that way you could put a round or triangle file in it if you wanted to.

24d · Jun 7, 2008

Something to consider if someone wants to make one of these. The top of the file AND the side of the file must line up perfectly with the round bar on the guide, if not the angles will change as you move the file from one end to the other, it's not a big deal to get it right, just something to be aware of.

Later,

joesawer · Jun 7, 2008

I like the looks of that. In my crystal ball I can see a lot more square filers in the future.
Suddenly my limited ability to free hand square file does not seem so special any more. That looks like it will make a very conisistant and smooth chain.

chowdozer · Jun 7, 2008

Tzed250 said:
I can lease a water jet for $55.00/hr.

What was the cycle time on the parts?

Depends on grit size. I'd say 10 minutes tops per part with 70 grit.

24D, would you care to share your drawings? I wouldn't mind making a setup for myself.

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