Great thread, thanks for reloading the missing pictures.
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We lost so much when AS crashed, and some members who have left, or left all of us except our Lord.
The threads are still there but pictures are gone. I'm also frustrated with the search functions here. They do not work well.
I searched myself for 036, I got ONE hit.
Mad Professor, I know this post is long forgotten, but when I ran across the subject that I was looking at and saw you thread, I just had to post something that may help others and have less frustration that I had for years and years.
I have the early model 034AV, ~1982ish, which is almost identical to the 036, and when I gave it a rebuild, including the clutch the upgrade that you mention, and after that it took me years to figure out what I had done wrong.
It a long story but the clutch upgrade that is pictured , the 1041 definitely is a more robust design, as it went from a 10x13x10 to a 10x16x10 needle bearing. it fit well, except when it came time to put the e-clip and washer on. It was about a hard to get the clip in the grove as one could imagine, but with some motivation it would get locked on.
The aftermath of that was for years it would never stop spinning the chain on the bar and all along I kept trying different clutch kits and even tuning to the point that it won’t idle at all. Then there were bearing after bearing failures that I have never had on any of my Stihls.
It was a shelf queen for years, and I recently went back at it for old times sake, and decided to return to the old small spline drum, with the“whimsy” bearing, and I saddled her up with a 20”, .325 NK bar, and I could not believe that It fixed the running chain and what at great treasure to have back at my side.
Bottom line is the 034 rank must have been 3mm shorter and it was not noticeable and I had no reference to go by. If you have the 034, clutch upgrade kit will not work.
Thanks for sharing and looks like a great saw you have there. I love it
I have the early model 034AV, ~1982ish, which is almost identical to the 036, and when I gave it a rebuild, including the clutch the upgrade that you mention, and after that it took me years to figure out what I had done wrong.
It a long story but the clutch upgrade that is pictured , the 1041 definitely is a more robust design, as it went from a 10x13x10 to a 10x16x10 needle bearing. it fit well, except when it came time to put the e-clip and washer on. It was about a hard to get the clip in the grove as one could imagine, but with some motivation it would get locked on.
The aftermath of that was for years it would never stop spinning the chain on the bar and all along I kept trying different clutch kits and even tuning to the point that it won’t idle at all. Then there were bearing after bearing failures that I have never had on any of my Stihls.
It was a shelf queen for years, and I recently went back at it for old times sake, and decided to return to the old small spline drum, with the“whimsy” bearing, and I saddled her up with a 20”, .325 NK bar, and I could not believe that It fixed the running chain and what at great treasure to have back at my side.
Bottom line is the 034 rank must have been 3mm shorter and it was not noticeable and I had no reference to go by. If you have the 034, clutch upgrade kit will not work.
Thanks for sharing and looks like a great saw you have there. I love it
It has to do with the clutch carrier and any washer used between the clutch and oil pump. You had a mismatch someplace.
The 034 IPL clearly shows the upgrade parts
Hello Mad Professor, I have to thank you for that bulletin as I have not seen that one before. The original saw never came with the inner cover so I removed that and even then the upgrade was just a hair too long for the outer washer and the e-clip. I’m not kidding, the clutch was dragging the crank. I attached some photos.
I went back to the original small spline and the flimsy bearing and all cleared up. I thinking the crank length on that early 034 was never able to be upgraded and which that was in the bulletin, as that would solve a HUGE unsolved mystery of mine.
THanks for taking your time to reply, I really appreciate it.
I went back to the original small spline and the flimsy bearing and all cleared up. I thinking the crank length on that early 034 was never able to be upgraded and which that was in the bulletin, as that would solve a HUGE unsolved mystery of mine.
THanks for taking your time to reply, I really appreciate it.
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Crankshaft part #s are the same. No upgrades on either saw.
IPLs do no give part #s for drums alone, just the kits. The kits are the same.
Do you have a guard washer between the clutch and the oil pump? (latter clutch carrier). The early carrier did not have the washer. Would be interesting to know the part # on the carrier and if there is an inner guard washer..
I'm trying to figure this one out...........
IPLs do no give part #s for drums alone, just the kits. The kits are the same.
Do you have a guard washer between the clutch and the oil pump? (latter clutch carrier). The early carrier did not have the washer. Would be interesting to know the part # on the carrier and if there is an inner guard washer..
I'm trying to figure this one out...........
