thechknhwk
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Saw this on the local CL for any CSM'ers looking to upgrade or get another powerhead.
Stihl 076 AVE chainsaw
Stihl 076 AVE chainsaw
076 for anyone looking
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Items like this should not be posted here without a warning that they will cause envy and desire!
$425 for a 076??? makes my 660's worth $300!!
thechknhwk
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I know. I just paid 625 for a 441. LOL. Not that I want a 100+ CC saw.
NuggyBuggy
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I want this saw, and as luck would have it, my wife is driving to Detroit TODAY on a shopping trip with a girlfriend (hers, not mine). It could end my CAD now as I search for a suitable milling saw.
This is a crazy longshot, I know, but: any local ASers willing to pickup for me and/or check it out ? I'd be willing to pay for your time and could send a deposit ... PM me. We already had a spat in the car and she is not gonna be happy if she goes off route and then finds no saw waiting for her. And she certainly wouldn't know what to look for. I know she already won't be happy driving around with a chainsaw taking up half the space in her trunk....
This is a crazy longshot, I know, but: any local ASers willing to pickup for me and/or check it out ? I'd be willing to pay for your time and could send a deposit ... PM me. We already had a spat in the car and she is not gonna be happy if she goes off route and then finds no saw waiting for her. And she certainly wouldn't know what to look for. I know she already won't be happy driving around with a chainsaw taking up half the space in her trunk....
thechknhwk
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If it was a 5 minute drive I would go check it out for you, but it's like an hour away. Good luck finding a volunteer
NuggyBuggy
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If it was a 5 minute drive I would go check it out for you, but it's like an hour away. Good luck finding a volunteer
I know, it's a longshot. I'm thinking I ought to pass, I don't want to send my wife on a wild goose chase or have her squawking at me for the rest of the week about having to drag around a saw and not being able to fit in some other crap because of it.
Also it seems that sourcing a bar might be a difficulty, and a search reveals that the price may not be quite as crazy low as it did at first. Still, if I could find a bar it would end my search for a milling saw pronto.
Timberframed
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425 for 111 cc's ain't all that bad. Looks in good shape but that means nothing. Bars are all over. There is a 44" Carlton on the bay right now.
NuggyBuggy
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I know, it's a lot of saw for the money compared to new, especially where I am (Canada). It's just that after finding discussions of people buying the same saw for less, with a big bar, it seemed like less of a screaming deal.
Having said that, I know if I could check it out in person I would almost certainly buy it. As it is, I may still decide it's worth the marital strife in asking my wife to go look at it, and take a chance and buy it, pretty much sight unseen.
Having said that, I know if I could check it out in person I would almost certainly buy it. As it is, I may still decide it's worth the marital strife in asking my wife to go look at it, and take a chance and buy it, pretty much sight unseen.
NuggyBuggy
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Well, my wife has been dispatched to pick it up :msp_biggrin:. We'll see what she comes home with Sunday night. I guess she's bought herself a lot of slack for a while...
thechknhwk
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Hope it is everything you were looking for. Send my apologies to the wife for the despair I have caused her:jester:
i've seen that there for a while now. i was trying to justify a saw that size for me when i dont need anything over 70cc. let us know how ya make out.
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Hope it don't leak oil in her trunk , you know this is gonna cost double ,maybe tripple when she tells your friends how far she went out of her way . their all gonna be on her side . were gonna need pictures to .
NuggyBuggy
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The worst part is her girlfriend is with her... so two of them had to make the haul from Detroit to Toronto... The good thing is she just happened to be going there that day for a weekend shopping trip... we just didn't know she would be shopping for me.
NuggyBuggy
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Thanks thechknhwk.... I hope this will finally end my milling-CAD once and for all !
Drat, if I'd known that I would have bargained with the guy on the phone. .. My wife already told me she refuses to haggle. I told her I was OK with her doing *anything* she needed to do to get me a deal.... her girlfriend was not impressed.
NuggyBuggy
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My wife picked up the saw.
Big snafu crossing the border. She's a straight shooter, intended to declare full value of everything she bought. Knowing this, I told her to get a receipt from the seller, which she did. Her friend drives the car across the border, and let's just say her husband is the kind that always has some sort of half-scam going on, always has a line on some shady deal, always getting fired from work, and they're tight on money. So I think due to her husband's influence, or for fear of getting yelled at by her husband, my wife's girlfriend has become a little like him.
So at the border the girlfriend says they both only bought $450. My wife is quietly freaking out, she bought $650 of stuff herself before the saw, all of which she intended to declare, but she's afraid of getting her girlfriend in trouble. So when the guard asks if that's correct, my wife says "yes". Of course, they get pulled over for a search, and they find all my wife's receipts neatly stacked where she could find them easily. They grill my poor wife for 2 humiliating hours, yelling at her and calling her a liar, but she still refuses to say that her friend made a mistake, because she's afraid of what she think could happen to her friend - who just happens to be under the limit and gets off. Canadian border officials told the wife she has been flagged and will be subject to searches every time she crosses the border for 5 years. My wife travels on business and now she's worried that she will be embarrassed crossing the border with a client who hears a loud customs official say she was flagged for lying before, and that she will have to face the humiliation of being searched like a criminal. All for what ended up to be a lousy $60 in taxes.
Poor girl was hysterical all night and still is today, and had to take the day off work. The only thing that is saving my hide is that without the saw my wife would have still been over the limit and still would have been in trouble.
All for what ended up to be a lousy $60 in taxes. Let that be a lesson to any of my fellow Canucks who might think of crossing the border and not declaring full value.
Oh yeah, here are a few pics. Sorry they are so huge, couldn't resize them quickly. I didn't get a chance to start the saw, probably won't until the weekend. Seller also sold me a 36" Stihl bar and chain, supposedly brand new, for $75. Didn't open the box to see bar/chain.
Big snafu crossing the border. She's a straight shooter, intended to declare full value of everything she bought. Knowing this, I told her to get a receipt from the seller, which she did. Her friend drives the car across the border, and let's just say her husband is the kind that always has some sort of half-scam going on, always has a line on some shady deal, always getting fired from work, and they're tight on money. So I think due to her husband's influence, or for fear of getting yelled at by her husband, my wife's girlfriend has become a little like him.
So at the border the girlfriend says they both only bought $450. My wife is quietly freaking out, she bought $650 of stuff herself before the saw, all of which she intended to declare, but she's afraid of getting her girlfriend in trouble. So when the guard asks if that's correct, my wife says "yes". Of course, they get pulled over for a search, and they find all my wife's receipts neatly stacked where she could find them easily. They grill my poor wife for 2 humiliating hours, yelling at her and calling her a liar, but she still refuses to say that her friend made a mistake, because she's afraid of what she think could happen to her friend - who just happens to be under the limit and gets off. Canadian border officials told the wife she has been flagged and will be subject to searches every time she crosses the border for 5 years. My wife travels on business and now she's worried that she will be embarrassed crossing the border with a client who hears a loud customs official say she was flagged for lying before, and that she will have to face the humiliation of being searched like a criminal. All for what ended up to be a lousy $60 in taxes.
Poor girl was hysterical all night and still is today, and had to take the day off work. The only thing that is saving my hide is that without the saw my wife would have still been over the limit and still would have been in trouble.
All for what ended up to be a lousy $60 in taxes. Let that be a lesson to any of my fellow Canucks who might think of crossing the border and not declaring full value.
Oh yeah, here are a few pics. Sorry they are so huge, couldn't resize them quickly. I didn't get a chance to start the saw, probably won't until the weekend. Seller also sold me a 36" Stihl bar and chain, supposedly brand new, for $75. Didn't open the box to see bar/chain.
cool beans!! on the saw purchase, but not what happened to your wife. boy, sometimes having to make a decision can get me into trouble too. it wont be long ( 30 years being a short time in tree years) before shes gonna be laughin about the situation.
) before shes gonna be laughin about the situation.NuggyBuggy
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Trust me, I hope you are right, but I'd bet money my wife will NEVER laugh about this. These women have been friends for nearly 30 years and this is going to seriously test it. My wife doesn't handle that sort of stress very well. If it were me, I would have been able to talk my way out of it and found some way of explaining what had happened without getting my friend in trouble. She's probably sobbing in bed right now.cool beans!! on the saw purchase, but not what happened to your wife. boy, sometimes having to make a decision can get me into trouble too. it wont be long ( 30 years being a short time in tree years
NuggyBuggy
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Well, I took a quick look at the saw. For its age, it is in very good condition. It is certainly worn in places, but the saw itself is well maintained: new filter, no crap on it, area under filter cover is clean, etc. I didn't have time to take a peek at the piston, so no idea how that looks.
Also, I bought a 36" bar and chain (more on this later) that the seller said was brand new. I've bought lots of stuff that was advertised online or by phone as "brand new" or "like new", which clearly is not when I see it. This stuff was. The bar was still in the box, no wear whatsoever on the paint or surfaces. The chain (Stihl 46RS) was likewise brand new.
However, the chain was clearly too long for the bar. I counted 123 drive links (.063" gauge, .404" pitch), which as far as I can tell indicates a Stihl 41/42" bar, whereas this bar takes 104 links.
The bar was a Stihl Duromatic, which I understand is a hard-nosed bar. I did some more research, and found no consensus on whether hard-nose or sprocket noses are preferred for milling. It seems some people prefer the hard-nose for milling because you get a few extra inches of milling length, and because supposedly they work better in dirty conditions, as might be found on a tree that's been on the ground a while. Elsewhere I read claims that hard-nose tips rob as much as 25% of the saw's power, making it less ideal, while still elsewhere others said the difference is minimal.
So it seems I have two options :
1- Order some ripping chain for this bar and get to it with the hard-nose.
2- Replace the bar with a sprocket-nose, maybe upgrade to a 41" bar (allowing me to also use my existing chain) and buy ripping chain for this bar.
What would you guys do ? Is there a clear, runaway-preferred option for nose-type when milling ?
terry
Also, I bought a 36" bar and chain (more on this later) that the seller said was brand new. I've bought lots of stuff that was advertised online or by phone as "brand new" or "like new", which clearly is not when I see it. This stuff was. The bar was still in the box, no wear whatsoever on the paint or surfaces. The chain (Stihl 46RS) was likewise brand new.
However, the chain was clearly too long for the bar. I counted 123 drive links (.063" gauge, .404" pitch), which as far as I can tell indicates a Stihl 41/42" bar, whereas this bar takes 104 links.
The bar was a Stihl Duromatic, which I understand is a hard-nosed bar. I did some more research, and found no consensus on whether hard-nose or sprocket noses are preferred for milling. It seems some people prefer the hard-nose for milling because you get a few extra inches of milling length, and because supposedly they work better in dirty conditions, as might be found on a tree that's been on the ground a while. Elsewhere I read claims that hard-nose tips rob as much as 25% of the saw's power, making it less ideal, while still elsewhere others said the difference is minimal.
So it seems I have two options :
1- Order some ripping chain for this bar and get to it with the hard-nose.
2- Replace the bar with a sprocket-nose, maybe upgrade to a 41" bar (allowing me to also use my existing chain) and buy ripping chain for this bar.
What would you guys do ? Is there a clear, runaway-preferred option for nose-type when milling ?
terry
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The muffler cover and area under the trigger handle looks way too clean in comparison to the rest of the saw.
I can't tell from the photos if these frsh looking bits have been replaced or just repainted - the muffler cover looks like a slightly different color so that could have been repainted. Based on the cosmetic damage on the rest of the saw it looks like the saw has been what I call "tumbled", that's put in a vehicle and allowed to roll around and over. That's one sign a previous owner has not been too careful with it. But these are tough saws and can take a fair bit of beating.
Hows the other side look, also how does under the clutch cover look?
That does not apply to milling, it only applies to when the bar nose itself is cutting in the dirt.
The 25% saw robbing power is a bit far fetched. I still have my 42" hardnose bar and provided the chain is adjusted correctly it works fine without any noticeable difference from a sprocket/roller nose bar. The only issue I found with hard nosed bars is the chain tension needs to be more carefully monitored since if it is over tightened it can rob HP. It's the same with any saw but the point to watch out for is that chain warms up quicker than bar so if you have been cutting for only a short period and the chain tension needs adjusting, since the chain has already slightly expanded due to it being hot but the bar has not, if you now tighten the chain, when the bar warms up and expands it will put an even greater tension on the chain. On a sprocket/roller nose bar this is less of an issue than for hard nose bars. Remember a chain does need some small amount of slack to cut properly. On long bars it can find that slack by just stretching the chain.
You will need more than one loop of chain so I'd suggest going to 3/8 chain for you other loops.
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