20 foot bri-mar dump trailer

[codog]

Been wondering for some time about trying to do some smaller jobs without my chipper. Put my smaller skidsteer on the dump trailer and assume I can get whole tree on trailer with very little labor or time needed to get in and out of job. Most of my jobs are close to various dump sites I use.
Can you please tell me your thoughts on this?
It seems like any wood over 4 inches can be left for the people I have wanting it for firewood, so there is much that I leave for them minimizing what I will need to haul away.
Thanks

 

[arbor pro]

Using a dump trailer and skidsteer is how I've operated for years. I just bought a chipper this year to try to become more efficient and it's listed for sale now because I'm more efficient with the dump trailer. Some listers will argue that a chipper is teh only way to go if you're going to be a 'serious, professional' tree service. I've been doing this for 24 years now and have tried various equipment combinations throughout those years. As a one-man show, a dump trailer is a more efficient way of doing work because you don't have so much equipment to shuttle back and forth and you're not always working on equipment.

 

[John464]

there was a guy in the TCIA earlier this year that had a profile of his company. He had what I recall were 24ft dump trailers equipped with knuckle booms. He pulled them with dually pickup trucks. Had a bunch of rigs setup like this. Normally Id say this type of operation is silly, but if the trailer is large enough to fit all your debris without making multiple trips it could turn into an efficient setup. If you have to go back to the jobsite you cancel out that efficiency and would be bettter with sending two trucks out, one with a chipper attached to it.

 

[redprospector]

If you've got a place to dump it that would be the way to go.
We don't have a "tree dump" anywhere around here, so pretty much everything has to be chipped, or ground. But the few job's I've done where we could just dump in a pit were way more efficient.

Andy

 

[HolmenTree]

This is my trailer rig . 7 ton hoist side dump box. Morbark chipper behind with Vermeer 252 stumpgrinder along side.Saw storage on side. I store it in my 2 car garage. Built it in my car garage 4 winters ago. I am in the market for a mini-skid steer and plan on building a 3 ft. wide ledge at the back of the trailer to carry the mini. All my jobs are close to a dump, and the dumps here are free!

 

[HolmenTree]

Here is another picture. This is an old pic of it without the side tool box and being pulled with my old 1992 F150 1/2 ton pickup.

 

[treecycle]

Nice Combo

Hey Holman, nice combo. Great idea to package the grinder/chipper side by side. Just wondering what kind of folding ramp that is and how do you like it?
I just built a nice super-low flatbed on a Npr cabover to get our grinder around town and am looking for a better ramp alternative. Down here in Seattle more times than not it is really nice to use the truck-mounted ramp to gain height onto a retaining wall above the street. Stay warm out there.

thanks Peter w- www.treecycleseattle.com

 

[thejdman04]

I would say get a goooseneck. Wood and a skid steer will add up weight wise quickly.

 

[HolmenTree]

I would say get a goooseneck. Wood and a skid steer will add up weight wise quickly.

The trouble with the 5th wheel gooseneck is you loose the use of the truck box. I got the trailer balanced just right ,there is only about 500 lbs on the trucks pintle hitch. If I was to put a 2,000 lb mini skid [Vermeer 400TX] on the back then there would have to be an adjustment moving the Tandem axles back a little. Our GVW laws here in Manitoba are not all that strict, only for the bigger trucks and trailers.

 

[gr8scott72]

I just built a nice super-low flatbed on a Npr cabover to get our grinder around town

Let's see some pictures of that NPR please! I want one to put my Carlton 7025 trx on so badly. That would be so much better to have just a truck instead of a truck AND a trailer trying to get in and out of people's driveways.

 

[HolmenTree]

Hey Holman, nice combo. Great idea to package the grinder/chipper side by side. Just wondering what kind of folding ramp that is and how do you like it?
I just built a nice super-low flatbed on a Npr cabover to get our grinder around town and am looking for a better ramp alternative. Down here in Seattle more times than not it is really nice to use the truck-mounted ramp to gain height onto a retaining wall above the street. Stay warm out there.

thanks Peter w- www.treecycleseattle.com

It took me almost a week to figure out how to build that ramp LOL, with nothing to copy from I was on my own, I guess the whole trailer was that way. Its hinged in the middle [top when folded] and at the bottom. Used 1" square tubing, 1 1/2" angle and screen.It attaches to a pin on the stumper.

 

[treecycle]

Cab-over-RIGS

Hello Holmen and thanks for the info. To you Gr8 Scott the only way I will show you pictures is if you get your rates up!

Grinding is not the thing to do for cheap. But if you do it sure helps to have a dialed set-up( your driveway to theirs and back again). The only pic I have of the flatbed is the one with 3 trucks in it, I will try to get some more soon, Thanks

Peter w- www.treecycleseattle.com

 

[arborworks1]

What gvw are you running on those cab over trucks. Are those beds custom built? I like the idea of the tie downs on top for winching, Starting to see that alot more now.

 

[codog]

time

It's feedback from guys like you that keep my 2 sons and wife telling me I spend way too much time on this site. I tell them I'm communicating with the experts. They roll their eyes like I'm crazy.
I often wonder if the guys I'm bidding against visit this site.

 

[custom8726]

This is my trailer rig . 7 ton hoist side dump box. Morbark chipper behind with Vermeer 252 stumpgrinder along side.Saw storage on side. I store it in my 2 car garage. Built it in my car garage 4 winters ago. I am in the market for a mini-skid steer and plan on building a 3 ft. wide ledge at the back of the trailer to carry the mini. All my jobs are close to a dump, and the dumps here are free!

Nice setup!! How long is it? how much does it weigh? Any pictures of the dump side? I like the idea but I would prefer a gooseneck myself. Definetly a well thought out and engineered setup you got there.

 

[STLfirewood]

Here is another picture. This is an old pic of it without the side tool box and being pulled with my old 1992 F150 1/2 ton pickup.

That is a great setup. I think you need to build another one and sell me that one. I'm really kind of surprised that the big chipper companies haven't started selling something like that yet. I know bandit had something similar but not to that extreme. So what's your price an when can I get it

Scott

 

[HolmenTree]

Nice setup!! How long is it? how much does it weigh? Any pictures of the dump side? I like the idea but I would prefer a gooseneck myself. Definetly a well thought out and engineered setup you got there.

Length is 20' and 6'-6" wide,6'-9" high. Weighs approx 6000 lbs. The weight of the chipper and stumper at the back takes alot of weight off the hitch, There is a little more then 500 lbs on the truck hitch. I like the pintle hitch setup I have, I can fill my truck box with blocks, with the gooseneck you can't do that. You can't beat the strength of the new 3/4 tons frames so I am not too worried about frame bending etc. You can click on the other picture below to see it dumping .
Willard.

 

[HolmenTree]

That is a great setup. I think you need to build another one and sell me that one. I'm really kind of surprised that the big chipper companies haven't started selling something like that yet. I know bandit had something similar but not to that extreme. So what's your price an when can I get it

Scott

Sorry Scott from all the hairpulling it took me to build it I'm not too anxious to build another one. If I ever did build a second one I probably would go 8 ft wide ,make the box bigger,run a bigger chipper and stumper and have a mini-skid sitting sideways on the back of it and pull it with a 3 ton truck. Yes I had to build this thing 4 years ago because there wasn't and still is nothing on the market like it. Sometimes you have to built something to fit your needs and this rig does it for me. One truck for work and family use and everthing fits into my 2 car garage at home. I don't know if I could make any money building and selling these things, I would sooner be out running the tree service and have only that to worry about.
Willard.

 

[Cowboy Billy]

Howdy Holman

Awesome trailer. Original and well thought out!! Thanks for sharing

Billy

 

[custom8726]

Length is 20' and 6'-6" wide,6'-9" high. Weighs approx 6000 lbs. The weight of the chipper and stumper at the back takes alot of weight off the hitch, There is a little more then 500 lbs on the truck hitch. I like the pintle hitch setup I have, I can fill my truck box with blocks, with the gooseneck you can't do that. You can't beat the strength of the new 3/4 tons frames so I am not too worried about frame bending etc. You can click on the other picture below to see it dumping .
Willard.

Thanks, I would not worry about any frame issues on the truck with a bumper pull (class 3 hitch), and it sounds like you have it balanced very well. I could see that set-up being very handy, For me though I would like to build it taller and wider like you stated above with a bigger chipper. I am picturing a 12" chipper and a gooseneck. Utilizing a goosneck allows more turning flexability and distributes the weight alot better over the axle. Im sure you already know that and I see your point on loosing the bed of the truck but you could make up for it on the trailer. For instance you could build a box on-top of the goosneck and not loose any trailer space and it would put the weight over your axle just like if you loaded the bed. Make sense? I would love to have something like that for smaller clean-up jobs or a second trimming crew. How much do you figure you have invested, time and money wise if you do not mind me asking?