20 foot bri-mar dump trailer

[STLfirewood]

I might have to try and find a good fabricator here local. I really see a market for a trailer like that. Think about it. Stump grinder, chipper,10yard chip box, and a dingo all wrapped up in one. Pulled by a truck that gets 10-12mpg towing. That is a money saving setup for your smaller operations. I'm going to buy a Genie boom this winter or next spring. I would pull a trailer like that with a 1-ton flatbed for the wood and the Genie with my Yukon. That would be a great set up for my dad and I. I bet a guy could sell quite a few unit like that also.

Scott

 

[HolmenTree]

The stump and Morbark chipper were both $30,000 total new. The trailer I spent approx $5,000 to build and about 4 months during my winter off season ,the hoist unit alone was $1,100. The frame and axles with electric brakes were like brand new from a wrecker yard. I T'ed the hoist into the chippers auto feed forward/reverse contol bar lever. Forward is up, reverse is down. Never had a problem with it. I sheeted in the box with the same plywood they use to make traffic signs along the highways ,tough, waterproof and smooth. I used Lexon for the windows. Galvanized 1/8" steel on the floor.
If I was to build a larger unit like I said earlier I would go 8' wide and mount a 12" Bandit chipper with the 140hp ,these [model 250 I think] is a narrow chipper that would fit alongside a 3' wide 50hp+ stumper on a 8' deck.Better yet have that chipper with tracks to do land clearing etc. The mini-skid steer I would mount sideways over the hitch in front of the box with a curb side folding ramp,then everthing is easily accessable. I would then pull this with a 2-3 ton dumpbox truck with a grapple picker.

 

[custom8726]

The stump and Morbark chipper were both $30,000 total new. The trailer I spent approx $5,000 to build and about 4 months during my winter off season ,the hoist unit alone was $1,100. The frame and axles with electric brakes were like brand new from a wrecker yard. I T'ed the hoist into the chippers auto feed forward/reverse contol bar lever. Forward is up, reverse is down. Never had a problem with it. I sheeted in the box with the same plywood they use to make traffic signs along the highways ,tough, waterproof and smooth. I used Lexon for the windows. Galvanized 1/8" steel on the floor.
If I was to build a larger unit like I said earlier I would go 8' wide and mount a 12" Bandit chipper with the 140hp ,these [model 250 I think] is a narrow chipper that would fit alongside a 3' wide 50hp+ stumper on a 8' deck.Better yet have that chipper with tracks to do land clearing etc. The mini-skid steer I would mount sideways over the hitch in front of the box with a curb side folding ramp,then everthing is easily accessable. I would then pull this with a 2-3 ton dumpbox truck with a grapple picker.

Diversity is key, once again nice job!!

 

[arbor pro]

This is my trailer rig . 7 ton hoist side dump box. Morbark chipper behind with Vermeer 252 stumpgrinder along side.Saw storage on side. I store it in my 2 car garage. Built it in my car garage 4 winters ago. I am in the market for a mini-skid steer and plan on building a 3 ft. wide ledge at the back of the trailer to carry the mini. All my jobs are close to a dump, and the dumps here are free!

I'm resurrecting this thread as I'm having a local welding shop look into what it will take to build me a trailer like Holmen Tree's.

I can't seem to find a dump trailer/equipment trailer, chipper truck combo that suits the bill so, I figured it's time to look at building one.

My chipper is a bandit 200+ with 86hp perkins diesel. Runs good and the trailer axle is bent a bit so i figured it's a good candidate for pulling it off of the frame and mounting on a flatbed trailer frame.

I'm looking to do it very similarly to Holmen's except for the following:

1) move the position of the chipper on the trailer to the right (passenger) side as the ignition and clutch are on that side
2) reverse the hinge side for the chip box so it dumps to the driver's side as that would be the opposite of the chipper
3) make the platform or rails next to the chipper accomodate either my sc252 or my mt50 bobcat
4) simplify the chip box a bit by eliminating the glass on front and back and just having the opening for the chip infeed and the hinge side for chip dumping

My chipper is 11' long from end of infeed chute to the front of the engine and 48" wide side to side and I figure it weighs about 4500# without the trailer. My mini skid is 36" wide by 9' long and weighs 2500#. I figured I would make the platform (rear) portion of the trailer about 12' long x 90" wide (inside the fender wells if possible) with a tripple axle and the front of the trailer would be a 8' x 8' or so box by about 75" tall. I figure the box will hold about 12 yards of chips if 90% full and the chips would weigh about 6000# not including the weight of the box and hoist.

So, total, I am figuring a 20' x8' triple axle trailer that will handle 13000# of payload plus the weight of the trailer and box. Three 7k axles ought to work I figure. I think a scissors hoist rated for 3-ton should suffice for the chip box and I am thinking electric over hydraulic like a dump trailer would be set up vs feeding off of the chipper's power and hydraulics that way I wouldn't have to fire up the chipper each time I want to dump.

Oh yeah - pintle hitch, not gooseneck. My two trucks that I will be using to pull the trailer - the one-ton in the photo and my hd3/4 ton are set up for pintle trailers and I do not want to go to gooseneck.

I am figuring that if I can pull this new combo trailer behind the 1-ton with dump bed (I will take the chip box off and put sides back on), that I can have everything short of the aerial lift in one package. I will no longer need to make a second trip to the jobsite with my dump trailer to pick up logs that were too big for the chipper. I will be able to put those in the 1-ton's dump bed.

I just put 60" dual tool boxes on the 1-ton so it now holds all my saws and rigging gear. I might try to add some tool boxes or at least tool holders to the new trailer to hold clean-up tools and other misc stuff.

Any suggestions or comments on what would be the best way to proceed if other than what I am thinking about doing...?

 

[gr8scott72]

Any suggestions or comments on what would be the best way to proceed if other than what I am thinking about doing...?

Only thing I can think of is that it might be too much weight on the rear of the trailer when the dump is empty and would be a fishtailin son of a gun on the highway.

Maybe have a way to load your mini in front of the dump bed when empty and then in the back when full.

 

[arbor pro]

Only thing I can think of is that it might be too much weight on the rear of the trailer when the dump is empty and would be a fishtailin son of a gun on the highway.

Maybe have a way to load your mini in front of the dump bed when empty and then in the back when full.

Ideally, I'd like to load my sc252 in front of the chip box but, that's another 1100# on the hitch when loaded and another 3' of trailer length that would need to be added.

I was thinking the triple axle would help with the back-loading issue. If the rear 'bed' is 12' long, I would locate the triples pretty much in the center of that bed so, when the chip box is empty, it will just be the weight of the chip box and frame as tongue weight but, when full, it will add about half the weight of the chips on the tongue and half on the axles (3000# or so on each).

 

[redprospector]

Just a little food for thought. A tripple axle trailer is really hard on tires, every time you turn either the front axle or the back axle will be sliding.
Might be better off using heavier axles, and going tandem.

Andy

 

[gr8scott72]

Just a little food for thought. A tripple axle trailer is really hard on tires, every time you turn either the front axle or the back axle will be sliding.
Might be better off using heavier axles, and going tandem.

Andy

10k dual tandems.

 

[arbor pro]

tandem duals would be nice but that would certainly require a deck-over bed which might be too high for the chipper infeed chute. That's why I was thinking tripples. Tripples would also balance the weight of the trailer better whether its loaded with chips or empty.

I will have to see if two 10k axles would work and will still consider the dual tandems.

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[redprospector]

A deck over would put you too high to be practical I think.

You listed about 13,000 lbs planned for the trailer. You might have to cut the chip box back to 8 or 9 yards, but you could probably make a pair of 8,000 lb axles do the job.

Andy

 

[stihlman390]

:greenchainsaw:My little buisness we use has two trucks two trailers one tractor roll in one day cut a drag trees next roll the fleet in with the ford dually f-350 twin turbo diesl hooked up to a goosneck. 35 foot tandem dually loaded a tractor on it and then a ford f250 v10 with a 35 foot goose neck tandem axle but a single not dual tired trailer. load trailers and send one off load the next and so on. doing that on average we haul 60, 30 foot tree's avergaing in 30" diameter.