3/8" Husky Sharpening Filing Guide Doesn't Fit?

[SteveSr]

Hello,

After a recent discussion I decided to get a Husky filing kit mainly to test out the progressive raker gauge. While the raker gauge appears to fit the tooth filing gauge does not. The photos show standard Stihl RS chain. However, the same issue exists on Oregon 72DPX.

It looks like the gauge is supposed to sit on the tie straps on each side of the tooth. As you can see in the photo if you rest the guide on the tie straps on one side it hits the drive link on the other. Am I doing something stoopid or is Husky 3/8" chain somehow different?

 

[Brent Nowell]

In that photo the gauge is on backwards, the arrows need to point forwards for proper down angle. It also appears to be strong in between the rivets on the tie strap, which is correct.

This is the correct position and with it sitting properly on bar

 

[Huskitoter]

Husky site says chisel only for the 3/8 (see pull down). Not surprised it doesn't work on a stihl chain.

https://www.husqvarna.com/us/access...g-equipment/combination-file-guide/596285401/

 

[Brent Nowell]

It should work as long as it’s 3/8 non low profile full chisel chain. Semi chisel it doesn’t work nor does low profile.

 

[user 122190]

New chains are tight with the proper size files for the first couple of strokes.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

My guide will not fit Stihl chain either.

 

[trains]

I remember reading here a while back, maybe Philberts thread on sharpening, that those husky roller guides would not fit stihl chain when new, once they had worn a bit where they slip down over the chain tie straps, they will then fit snugly on stihl chain, some filed their roller guides to fit stihl chains.

I just use mine on husky or carlton chain, and use the basic file holder for stihl and others, but use the husky depth gauge for progressive filing.

 

[Ronaldo]

Ive used my guide successfully on Oregon and Carlton chain. Never tried on Stihl chain.

 

[SteveSr]

It should work as long as it’s 3/8 non low profile full chisel chain. Semi chisel it doesn’t work nor does low profile.

That is what I would have thought. One would think that it should sit on top of both sets of tie straps and not on one set of tie straps and almost on one drive link.

The other thing is that if it sits on the tie straps the file height doesn't follow the tooth down as it gets shorter like the Stihl file guide that is attached to the file and indexes off the height of the tooth.

 

[old guy]

That is what I would have thought. One would think that it should sit on top of both sets of tie straps and not on one set of tie straps and almost on one drive link.

The other thing is that if it sits on the tie straps the file height doesn't follow the tooth down as it gets shorter like the Stihl file guide that is attached to the file and indexes off the height of the tooth.

Smaller file then works well.

 

[SteveSr]

View attachment 751525 In that photo the gauge is on backwards, the arrows need to point forwards for proper down angle. It also appears to be strong in between the rivets on the tie strap, which is correct.

I can see the directional issue but my main question was about how this guide is supposed to sit on the chain. Looks like Husky drive links are shorter and/or rivets are smaller than Stihl/Oregon.

 

[Brent Nowell]

That is what I would have thought. One would think that it should sit on top of both sets of tie straps and not on one set of tie straps and almost on one drive link.

The other thing is that if it sits on the tie straps the file height doesn't follow the tooth down as it gets shorter like the Stihl file guide that is attached to the file and indexes off the height of the tooth.

Yes I see what you are saying now, it does not index properly the further down to the end of the tooth you get. The guide is at a fixed height.

In your pic it is really hard to see what you are talking about in terms of it is sitting properly. A side shot perhaps?

 

[trains]

The guide sits on the chain, with the forward part sitting higher than the rear part, thus as the tooth gets filed back, the file drops in height accordingly.

Edited to add
It works well on semi chisel chain, not sure why someone mentioned it only worked on chisel.

 

[Huskitoter]

It works well on semi chisel chain, not sure why someone mentioned it only worked on chisel.

Husqvarna states it only works on chisel. Check the link I provided for yourself. SteveSr confirms that it doesn't work with DPX. Perhaps it is hit or miss on semi chisel.

 

[MGoBlue]

Hmm, I've used the guide on RS before, many times.
I had to show it fit on .325 with no issues a while back. No pics of 3/8.

 

[Huskitoter]

I thought it interesting that they state the chisel limitation only for 3/8 and not .325 too. Is there some physical trait of the 3/8 semi chisel that prevents them from using the same side plates as the chisel?

 

[SteveSr]

Hmm, I've used the guide on RS before, many times.
I had to show it fit on .325 with no issues a while back. No pics of 3/8.

This shows the .325 guide sitting flat, directly on BOTH sets of tie straps. I would have expected the 3/8" to do the same.

 

[SteveSr]

I thought it interesting that they state the chisel limitation only for 3/8 and not .325 too. Is there some physical trait of the 3/8 semi chisel that prevents them from using the same side plates as the chisel?

I woudn't think so. The base of the cutter should be the same.

 

[Brent Nowell]

The guide sits on the chain, with the forward part sitting higher than the rear part, thus as the tooth gets filed back, the file drops in height accordingly.

Edited to add
It works well on semi chisel chain, not sure why someone mentioned it only worked on chisel.

I did not know that it was angled! Makes sense now.

I tried this guide on semi chisel and it was way too high from what I can remember. This was a long time ago so it was possible I wasn’t doing it right.

 

[trains]

Husqvarna states it only works on chisel. Check the link I provided for yourself. SteveSr confirms that it doesn't work with DPX. Perhaps it is hit or miss on semi chisel.

3/8 Semi Chisel, guide on a chain I was about to sharpen, the chain had previously been sharpened poorly.




Edited to add, chains sharpened with that guide cut well, self feed, throw good chips, and cut straight, I do like them for the results they give in the field, and to develop muscle memory.