I am afraid of flying! I am not ever getting on a plane, so I know what you are saying.
Jeff
A & E...The art and Zen of the Grunt (Groundworker)
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I am afraid of flying! I am not ever getting on a plane, so I know what you are saying.
Jeff
TreeTarget
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I am not afraid to fly...not afraid to learn tree climbing (professionally), and not afraid of alot of things dealing with heights...
...it's just the feeling of being unsupported when on high and there is alot of ground below the slope I am on...
Can't explain...just happens at certain times...
Been up in a bucket, no problem...been in planes and love to fly...roofs and cliffs and shaky things...problem so far...
Someone on AA gets a reprieve...falling off a cliff should suffice for me...
When in a bucket or a plane, I always wonder the mechanics and kinda freak. Nothing like being in control for me. But, I get it,
Jeff
Jeff
TreeTarget
ArboristSite Operative
When in a bucket or a plane, I always wonder the mechanics and kinda freak. Nothing like being in control for me. But, I get it,
Jeff
See, I don't think about the mechanical so much, it is the security of something around or touching me that can totally obliviate any fear or nervousness I have...might do good at skydiving.
EdenT
ArboristSite Operative
I wouldn't try learning to climb if you need that security. There are times when you have to do stuff in a tree that makes the caveman bit of your brain scream in fear. If you take any notice of it, which most tree climbers don't, then you will freeze and need to be rescued. There is nothing to be ashamed of being a good GM. In fact my GM is getting to be real good. Yesterday I took him and his lady out to dinner just to say thanks for the excellent work he has been doing. It makes my life so much easier knowing the ground is in good hands.
EdenT
ArboristSite Operative
TreeTarget
ArboristSite Operative
This was a solid week...Finished rearranging the shop & rewired the band saw, finished the chairs (still working on the seats), worked the ground all week, got fed numerous times, heard my son is showing his flirting skills--he's 8 so fun times ahead, and Really enjoyed Zombie Land.
Next week promises to be just as busy, so hope the weekend lends alot of limberness back to the bones.
Next week promises to be just as busy, so hope the weekend lends alot of limberness back to the bones.
Saddlesoar
ArboristSite Lurker
Groundsman
A great groundsman is one of a climbers best attributes. How run a porta wrap,set a block,when to let it run,sharpen a saw,treat customers properly,the list is endless (what you put in is what you get out). And all of this without explaining over and over.
Take care of them and pay them well.
A great groundsman is one of a climbers best attributes. How run a porta wrap,set a block,when to let it run,sharpen a saw,treat customers properly,the list is endless (what you put in is what you get out). And all of this without explaining over and over.
Take care of them and pay them well.
treemandan
Tree Freak
By the way gentlemen:
Yesterday I worked with this guy, he wanted this ash hammered back a little. He said I could just cut and hold the tips. They were not big but it was over three spruce and a little tiny high voltage wire.
I just zipped the little twigs down laterally while he held tension on the line through a crotch of a dogwood.
The ole' cut and hold technique, that's for suckers. It even says so on my ins policy... verbatum. If they find out I tried some crap like that they wouldn't pay.
Yesterday I worked with this guy, he wanted this ash hammered back a little. He said I could just cut and hold the tips. They were not big but it was over three spruce and a little tiny high voltage wire.
I just zipped the little twigs down laterally while he held tension on the line through a crotch of a dogwood.
The ole' cut and hold technique, that's for suckers. It even says so on my ins policy... verbatum. If they find out I tried some crap like that they wouldn't pay.
ozzy42
Addicted to ArboristSite
I get so pissed when trying to explain dropping limbs in the fashion you mentioned.And they end up crashing the limb into something instead of letting it go when at the maxum of the initial swing.
Had that happen a few weeks ago, and a big limb that should have landed nice and pretty in the open yard ,instead he let it run a bit then tightend up on it again,only to drag it into a little crepe myrtle I was using the rope to avoid in the first place.
Told him'' WTF,I could have done that in a lot less time without the rope''
I'm with ole ropensaddle .Anymore I find it easier to just run the limb line myself from the tree,and just let them untie and drag it out of the way.
To all the groundies who pay attention and use their heads.Makes climbing so much easier.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
good job treemandan. that'll make for a good night's sleep tonight after reading a little Kafka in the ole fartsack. (just messin w ya)
treemandan
Tree Freak
That guy can put me to sleep rather quick sometimes too but I haven't read all that many of his books.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
I read one too Dan. What a yawner.
treemandan
Tree Freak
Its taken close to 20 years but I think I am begiining to figure this stuff out:
When they say " can't you just cut and hold it?" They actually mean " Since I break my ass and hold on by a wing and a prayer why shouldn't you?"
When they say, " Your good but I am quicker" They actually mean, " I freeclimb and hook every tree I climb... and cut and hold everything too... I fell out a few times... broke my jaw... and my eye socket."
When they say " What do you have tied on? " They actually mean , " I am just guessing at this stuff, I really have no idea, you have do my thinking for me. "
These are just a few questions and such I keep hearing and now have figured out how to answer all of them with one phrase which is, " #### and grab that rope!"
When they say " can't you just cut and hold it?" They actually mean " Since I break my ass and hold on by a wing and a prayer why shouldn't you?"
When they say, " Your good but I am quicker" They actually mean, " I freeclimb and hook every tree I climb... and cut and hold everything too... I fell out a few times... broke my jaw... and my eye socket."
When they say " What do you have tied on? " They actually mean , " I am just guessing at this stuff, I really have no idea, you have do my thinking for me. "
These are just a few questions and such I keep hearing and now have figured out how to answer all of them with one phrase which is, " #### and grab that rope!"
TreeTarget
ArboristSite Operative
The boss and I watched a cut-and-hold guy in the bucket today...both of us were cringing at the cut he made--almost like a backhand tennis swing, not more than 3 inches from his armpit.
Never have to guess what is wanted, as everything is pretty much gone over before we start, and set up pretty well as decided on...sometimes (alot of times) things change, but the communication is there, so usually no problems.
Maybe it helps to work with someone you've known for a long time.
Never have to guess what is wanted, as everything is pretty much gone over before we start, and set up pretty well as decided on...sometimes (alot of times) things change, but the communication is there, so usually no problems.
Maybe it helps to work with someone you've known for a long time.
TreeTarget
ArboristSite Operative
Now that makes a guy feel good...Can't say I work circles around anyone, but I keep pluggin' along. Kinda helps being older, too...the realization of mortality and limits lends a bit more awareness to the situation...
...well, not today; had to do a sprint out of an area real quick. Got complimented on the reflexes, which didn't do so much for the "dumb-@#$ feeling. Better than feeling dead, though.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
you saying you almost got killed by a limb that was dropped?
TreeTarget
ArboristSite Operative
Almost, would imply the limb actually fell...it didn't, I just should not have been there anyway. Hopefully, I'll let you know when the 'almost' ever comes around, but trying to stay away from that discussion.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
You wandered into the drop (sometimes called the kill zone) zone and got chewed out I assume. Make eye contact with your climber and get him to give you an all clear after you request to enter.
