A fruit tree ID
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That looks like paw paw, but I don't think it is either.
1. Veins on the leaves have several parallel ribs. Paw Paw has a central rib.
2. Bark is not smooth with lenticels.
3. Flowers are not "purplish-brown, broad bell shape, 6 petals, 1 to 1 1/2 inch across".
Tough tree!
1. Veins on the leaves have several parallel ribs. Paw Paw has a central rib.
2. Bark is not smooth with lenticels.
3. Flowers are not "purplish-brown, broad bell shape, 6 petals, 1 to 1 1/2 inch across".
Tough tree!
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4. Paw paw has leaves that are wider toward the tip than at the base. This tree appears to be the opposite of that description.
4. Paw paw has leaves that are wider toward the tip than at the base. This tree appears to be the opposite of that description.
Toddppm
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Now we're getting closer! The leaves on this tree are serrated and I haven't found any good pics of mango leaves , they look smooth edged? Also the bark is pretty scaly. Could be some kind of dwarf, I'd say definitely in the same family from what I've read so far.
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Perhaps not a mango, they seem to have a rather prominent central rib to the leaves, also.
I suspect a mango or paw paw hybrid or graft of some sort. Here is another post that discusses a few problems with identifying mango plants: Mystery Plant!?! — What is it? « gfcelebration
I am still clueless as to what it might be. The fruit looks very much like paw paw photos, but quite a bit bigger and better looking. I suspect some sort of improved variety.
I suspect a mango or paw paw hybrid or graft of some sort. Here is another post that discusses a few problems with identifying mango plants: Mystery Plant!?! — What is it? « gfcelebration
I am still clueless as to what it might be. The fruit looks very much like paw paw photos, but quite a bit bigger and better looking. I suspect some sort of improved variety.
Can you look at or disect the flower and fruit?
Flower parts for paw paw come in 5's.
I don't really know, I have been interested in seeing a paw paw fruit all my life. It's all a result of that dang song about the boy and girl down in the pawpaw patch.
Here are some pics, the lyrics to the song, and some dissected fruit: Crabtree Farms » Way Down Yonder in The Paw-Paw Patch, A story by Jim Pfitzer
Flower parts for paw paw come in 5's.
I don't really know, I have been interested in seeing a paw paw fruit all my life. It's all a result of that dang song about the boy and girl down in the pawpaw patch.
Here are some pics, the lyrics to the song, and some dissected fruit: Crabtree Farms » Way Down Yonder in The Paw-Paw Patch, A story by Jim Pfitzer
Link to the music: BARNES & NOBLE | Folksongs & Bluegrass for Children by ROUNDER SELECT, Phil Rosenthal
Click the music near the bottom of the page to hear the song.
Click the music near the bottom of the page to hear the song.
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Ha, I heard that song somewhere not too long ago. Just remembered somebody here I think posted a link to some hippy kids youtube video of them flitting around some woods getting paw paws.
We have Paw Paws here, well not right here but nearby. I transplanted a couple to my house from the woods at a place I ride at. They didn't make it too long, terrible soil compared to where I got them. Anyway, the flowers are completely different, they look sort of like rose petals and are alot bigger. The fruits have a very different taste.
I go by this tree all the time, actually there are 2 of them in the yard, I'll stop again and grab a small branch with flowers to get a better picture. The Mango flowers look very close, at least that type of flower. Otherwise I'll have to wait till Oct. again to grab some of the fruit.
We have Paw Paws here, well not right here but nearby. I transplanted a couple to my house from the woods at a place I ride at. They didn't make it too long, terrible soil compared to where I got them. Anyway, the flowers are completely different, they look sort of like rose petals and are alot bigger. The fruits have a very different taste.
I go by this tree all the time, actually there are 2 of them in the yard, I'll stop again and grab a small branch with flowers to get a better picture. The Mango flowers look very close, at least that type of flower. Otherwise I'll have to wait till Oct. again to grab some of the fruit.
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I have worked all the tree ID keys that I know of, and I keep getting blanks or paw paws. But that isn't a paw paw
I'm stumped until you find something new. A closeup of the flowers, buds, and leaves might help.
I'm stumped until you find something new. A closeup of the flowers, buds, and leaves might help.
You might just knock on the door and ask the owners if they know what the tree is. Most folks are pleased to have someone admire their trees, particularly if it is by a pro.
Sometimes it leads to tree work.
Sometimes it leads to tree work.
Iron Head
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Looks like a Jujube.
Can you get a close up of the fruit?
And where is this fruit tree from?
Can you get a close up of the fruit?
And where is this fruit tree from?
Good call, looks like a 'red date' to me.
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The flowers look close but if I remember right there were several small pits not 1 big one. And it did taste like apple. Maybe some kind of apple?
I've been tempted to knock on the door but this house looks like the kind where they don't want visitors, all shades drawn, nothing outside except the vehicles. I keep thinking the people that live there might be spanish or korean, so they could have got the seedlings from home. We're in zone 7 too so it's doing pretty good if it's tropical, no die back at all.
I've been tempted to knock on the door but this house looks like the kind where they don't want visitors, all shades drawn, nothing outside except the vehicles. I keep thinking the people that live there might be spanish or korean, so they could have got the seedlings from home. We're in zone 7 too so it's doing pretty good if it's tropical, no die back at all.
Toddppm
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hmmmm searched oval apple- Gopher Apple if this were a tree it'd be closer.....
Iron Head got it!
Jujube
Ziziphus jujuba
According to wikipedia, this is a rather well used fruit in asia. Jujube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Links with pics and info:
Jujube | Trees of Joy
Jujube - Ziziphus jujuba
Notice the prominent parallel veins in the leaves. This pic looks like toddppm's tree.
Jujube
Ziziphus jujuba
According to wikipedia, this is a rather well used fruit in asia. Jujube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Links with pics and info:
Jujube | Trees of Joy
Jujube - Ziziphus jujuba
Notice the prominent parallel veins in the leaves. This pic looks like toddppm's tree.
Look real close at the ribs on the leaves. So far, nothing else we have looked at have even come close.
One of the links I posted above indicated that there were lots of varieties of this plant available from China, since they had been hybridizing them for many years.
Here is a link that provides much better identification and description of the tree. It also shows detailed photos of the flowers that seem to match your pictures.
NMSU: H-330: Jujube: Chinese Date in New Mexico
I'm pretty certain this is a match.
One of the links I posted above indicated that there were lots of varieties of this plant available from China, since they had been hybridizing them for many years.
Here is a link that provides much better identification and description of the tree. It also shows detailed photos of the flowers that seem to match your pictures.
NMSU: H-330: Jujube: Chinese Date in New Mexico
I'm pretty certain this is a match.
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