Were these trees cut back too much?

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DebBD

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Just yesterday, I had an arborist come in and trim and shape my Japanese Maple and River Birch it looks like he cut way too much. Looking for advice and insight. Will they grow back and look normal? Or is there a chance that they will die. I am in southeast Michigan after and before pictures. Thank you in advance.
 

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I guess the big question is what did you tell the arborist you wanted done? And were they a certified arborist?
There's pruning for health (dead/diseased/damaged branches, etc), then there's pruning for aesthetics. It's the aesthetic pruning that can be pretty variable from one pro to the next, and a lot of that depends on what the client says they want.
 
I guess the big question is what did you tell the arborist you wanted done? And were they a certified arborist?
There's pruning for health (dead/diseased/damaged branches, etc), then there's pruning for aesthetics. It's the aesthetic pruning that can be pretty variable from one pro to the next, and a lot of that depends on what the client says they want.
I wanted it trimmed and shaped. It was also blocking part of my outside cameras so I asked if he could trim that back. He is a certified arborist. After he finished, I questioned why he took of so much. He said he could not just cut it back a foot, that he had to go to the trunk. If I would have known that beforehand, my husband and i would have been able to discuss it and decide which way we wanted to go
 
He said he could not just cut it back a foot, that he had to go to the trunk.
He is correct on that. Making "stub" cuts, which are called heading cuts, is a really bad thing to do on trees. Yes, it is common in the DIY world, but it's not a good thing for tree. Shrubs, it's okay mostly. So if he had a branch that had some leafy tips that needed to be removed, and there wasn't another suitable interior side branch on that limb to cut back to, then he has to go all the back until he finds a suitable side branch. Sometimes that's the trunk. Without some really detailed before and after, I'd just have to trust that he did what was necessary and according to good practice. Based on how thick and bushy the maple was before though, it would not surprise me if there wasn't any suitable interior side branches to cut to. I see this all the time.

I hate it when these things happen because there might be some hard feelings. I see lots of trees, including Japanese maples, that have been left to grow without having been pruned properly on any regular schedule. "Properly" meaning something that is more in depth than what the average client is aware of and really amounts to training the tree to grow to the form you ultimately want. Sometimes in these case, you just don't have lot of options and have to make some extreme cuts. Sometimes the arborist doesn't explain that very well to client, and sometimes client just doesn't hear what the arborist is telling them. Not saying that that is the case here at all, just giving you some background from an arborists point of view.
 
He is correct on that. Making "stub" cuts, which are called heading cuts, is a really bad thing to do on trees. Yes, it is common in the DIY world, but it's not a good thing for tree. Shrubs, it's okay mostly. So if he had a branch that had some leafy tips that needed to be removed, and there wasn't another suitable interior side branch on that limb to cut back to, then he has to go all the back until he finds a suitable side branch. Sometimes that's the trunk. Without some really detailed before and after, I'd just have to trust that he did what was necessary and according to good practice. Based on how thick and bushy the maple was before though, it would not surprise me if there wasn't any suitable interior side branches to cut to. I see this all the time.

I hate it when these things happen because there might be some hard feelings. I see lots of trees, including Japanese maples, that have been left to grow without having been pruned properly on any regular schedule. "Properly" meaning something that is more in depth than what the average client is aware of and really amounts to training the tree to grow to the form you ultimately want. Sometimes in these case, you just don't have lot of options and have to make some extreme cuts. Sometimes the arborist doesn't explain that very well to client, and sometimes client just doesn't hear what the arborist is telling them. Not saying that that is the case here at all, just giving you some background from an arborists point of view.
Appreciate the information
 
Appreciate the information
You're welcome. You know, funny thing is that I've pruned trees like yours before and gone in like a fine hair dresser and tried to remove only was absolutely necessary, and patted myself on the back afterwards. Only to have the client come out and say "I thought you were going to get rid of all those low branches. :D Good communication is certainly the key.
 
You're welcome. You know, funny thing is that I've pruned trees like yours before and gone in like a fine hair dresser and tried to remove only was absolutely necessary, and patted myself on the back afterwards. Only to have the client come out and say "I thought you were going to get rid of all those low branches. :D Good communication is certainly the key.
Agreed
 
Agree - the big question is what was the initial discussion.

The Japanese maple looks lifted a little higher than I may have done, but based on a few pictures that's hard to say for sure.

Personally, I would have tried to do more to that River birch to reduce some of that mass of co-dominate leaders. But, again...what discussion did you have with the arborist about what you wanted done? Certainly doesn't look like too much off of the birch.
 

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