A Little Shake before Fueling

[Sethro]

I would recommend sloshing you mix around if you use a caster based oil. John

 

[spacemule]

You guys are gonna go blind.

 

[HickoryNick]

I shake my fuel jug and look at the bubbles to see what proof it is

 

[rmihalek]

Back when I was a kid, shake was the fine pieces of tobacco that settled to the bottom of the bag and was great for rolling nice cigarettes. The big pieces of tobacco stayed up top and had to be broken up to roll a good cig.

In those days, shake was "the bomb" because it allowed a fine roll...

 

[Mr.]

I shake my fuel jug and look at the bubbles to see what proof it is

Quit burning that stuff. If you ever decide to export *cough* fuel let me know.

Fred

 

[manual]

I shake my fuel jug and look at the bubbles to see what proof it is

oh yeah, The proof is in the bubbles.
I'll take mine shaken not stirred

 

[Big Woody]

My neighbor who was old used to shake his gas cans everytime he used them (regular and two cycle mix). He would shake his paint as well. Finally one day I asked him why he shook every container he used. His response was - Parkinson's Disease. :rockn:

 

[romeo]

The chemist is an idiot. The oil will seperate and settle at the bottom. Try to start a dirtbike after it has set for a few weeks. When it doesn't start open the fuel bowl and see what comes out.

 

[woodsrider]

I've always been a shaker...for my two stroke motorcycle premix and my chainsaw premix. The fuel/oil mix can separate over time, and a couple of shakes is pretty cheap and easy insurance. Old dog, old tricks, I suppose.

Just remember though, if you shake more than a few times, you're playing with it!

 

[HickoryNick]

Quit burning that stuff. If you ever decide to export *cough* fuel let me know.

Fred

I didn't figure you Arkansas boys had much trouble getting good fuel down that way. Lord lord, sounds like I need to set up a refinery in your area! lol

oh yeah, The proof is in the bubbles.
I'll take mine shaken not stirred

That's the way it orta be!

 

[Toneman]

Keep on shaking!!

 

[ShoerFast]

The chemist is an idiot. The oil will seperate and settle at the bottom. Try to start a dirtbike after it has set for a few weeks. When it doesn't start open the fuel bowl and see what comes out.

Idiot is such a moot word here!

My dirt bike has an "on" and a "reserve" spot on the fuel selecter, so I would never know if the oil settled in the tank , on is up from the bottom,,,,,maybe at about the 75 : 1 location?

I'm thinking kicking the thing gives it a good shake, change mine to a shaker.

 

[TimberPig]

The chemist is an idiot. The oil will seperate and settle at the bottom. Try to start a dirtbike after it has set for a few weeks. When it doesn't start open the fuel bowl and see what comes out.

I think you would find that that is because the carb float bowl is ventilated to the air, and the gas tends to evaporate off, not so much because of oil settling. Sealed from the air, so it cannot evaporate, you would likely find the oil doesn't usually separate much, unless it is a castor oil.

For the cost of shaking it (free, save a few seconds) versus the cost of the potential damage caused by running with no oil, I would have to say ignoring your chemist buddy is prudent advice.

 

[Mr.]

I didn't figure you Arkansas boys had much trouble getting good fuel down that way. Lord lord, sounds like I need to set up a refinery in your area! lol


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No fuel troubles here. I have every two stroke racing oil I know of. AM looking for every fuel sample I can find also.

I have many samples of whisky from Ireland and Scotland, but it's hard to get stuff across the south.

Poor distribution.

Fred

 

[davefr]

I also thought that giving it a couple shakes in the saw AFTER re-fueling would create a slight pressure increase to help prime the fuel system. (helpful if the saw was previously run dry)

 

[romeo]

If you shake it more than twice......

I apologize for using the word idiot.
Your probably right, but I use Maxima synthetic, it does settle, and I still believe in shaking the mix anyway, it doesn't take THAT much energy.
To satisify my own curriosity I am going to throw some mix in a glass jar up on the shelf to see what happens:deadhorse:

 

[ShoerFast]

To satisify my own curriosity I am going to throw some mix in a glass jar up on the shelf to see what happens

Romeo

Cap your test jar, as it would be in a tank, limiting the introduction of water vapor. If your sure your test shelf is safe, try one test open, and if you would like, try dripping a little water in one of the test?

Back in the day, when we used 30# weight as a 2-cycle oil, clear cider jugs were the main-stay gas cans. We usually left the saw gas in a brush pile, if you looked at it after it sat, it was darker towards the bottom, but by the time you carried it to the saw, was usually all the shake it took.

If you get your test to settle, see how little shaking would remix it?

Kevin

 

[ray benson]

Found this on Madsen's website. Their recommendation. Don't use mixed fuel if it is over six weeks old. Tests show that as the mix ages, the oil won't stay suspended in the fuel even if agitated. The saw ends up getting a blob of oil followed by fuel with no oil at all. You know the rest.